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re: How upsetting is it to get Swai instead of catfish?

Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:38 pm to
Is possible it was frozen then thawed and kept in water for too long or something. I don't know. Thick but very mushy pieces of fish.
The texture was off putting, similar to pickled herring texture. Soft and spongy.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97615 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:40 pm to
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I've sold both for years. Believe or it not, in blind taste tests people actually prefer the swai


I prefer swai over farm raised catfish
Posted by MeridianDog
Home on the range
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:51 pm to
I feel like I owe USA Catfish Farmers the respect to only eat their product if I don;t catch my catfish myself. I know the wholesale price for domestic raised catfish is probably a little more than swai fish, but it is not that much more, and there is no way US farmers can produce fish as cheaply as Vietnam or China. Lets ignore the fact that the Asian fish is produced in ponds that contain human waste toilet water. If you don't believe that, I have seen them. If you don't believe me, ask anyone who fought over there.

We will lose a lot when we allow those folks to put US Catfish Farmers out of business, and given any chance, they will kill the US market.

Enough of my rant.
This post was edited on 1/31/23 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Professor Boudin
Member since Jun 2019
83 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 3:59 pm to
MD all of your points are valid. Catfish is currently more than double and nearing triple the price of swai for restaurants. To your point, one of the reasons driving price is that we have lost so many US farmers. Anyone can take a trip through parts of NELA and the MS Delta and you'll see miles of abandoned catfish ponds.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 4:53 pm to
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There’s absolutely no excuse for any Gulf Coast restaurant to be serving swai, other than they’re trying to maximize profit and sacrifice quality.


What does being a gulf coast restaurant have to do with it? Restaurants aren't serving up hard heads.

I worked at a seafood restaurant that switched to basa on the down low. I don't eat catfish, but I saw the texture of the fish was different.

I think it's pretty low down to deceive your customers like that. There should be more transparency in food labeling and more enforcement of the laws already there.
Posted by MeridianDog
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:35 pm to
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through parts of NELA and the MS Delta and you'll see miles of abandoned catfish ponds.


According to the Mississippi Catfish producers association, Those empty ponds are the result of lost sales due to Swai imports.

In mississippi, anyone selling, must declare the source of their fish. Usually it is a sign in the lobby or on the menu that states, "We proudly serve Mississippi Catfish".
Posted by lsufan9193969700
3 miles from B.R.
Member since Sep 2003
55105 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:38 pm to
I'm not a big fan of catfish, but I don't think I've ever had swai. I am not prepared to discuss this topic. I shall return one day if I ever experience this issue!
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5805 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:44 pm to
Mike Anderson’s thin fried catfish is pretty damn good. Best lunch deal in town when you envie for fried fish. Salad to start and grilled side veggies to keep it healthy. 13$
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
11714 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 5:54 pm to
You eat like this everyday for lunch?
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
47360 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 6:03 pm to
A restaurant near me fried great catfish. They switched to swai/basa, but didn't change it on the menu. They got into trouble for that. Haven't been there since because they won't go back to catfish.
Posted by BigDropper
Member since Jul 2009
7608 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:17 pm to
See that curl? Catfish don't typically curl like that (unless it does).

It's not the best way to tell the difference but, it's definitely an indicator to caveat emptor.
Posted by Ryan3232
Valet driver for TD staff
Member since Dec 2008
25786 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 7:42 pm to
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It would work for stewed or smothered fish dishes. It just isn't right for fried. In my opinion.
the opposite of this actually.
The trick is to slice the swai very thin before battering/frying.

Its not as good as catfish, but its still a good time imo.
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
Member since Oct 2006
7574 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 8:00 pm to
USA is importing cheap Basa/Swai and paying Catfish farmers not to farm. See Rice as an example. It’s why so many rice farmers are now crawfish farmers.

Side note. People who visit the Gulf Coast from the Middle and Northern US want to eat fish that doesn’t taste like fish. They want a mild white fish which is cheap. Had the most complaints about fish tacos ever the day I used Gulf caught red snapper instead of swai.
Posted by McCauley
Jacksonburg, WV
Member since Jan 2023
264 posts
Posted on 1/31/23 at 10:36 pm to
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What does being a gulf coast restaurant have to do with it?


because there's plenty of catfish available... just like all the restaurants along the beach that serve it and advertise it to unsuspecting tourists like it's some sort of locally caught gulf fish
Posted by DownSouthDave
Beau, Bro, Baw
Member since Jan 2013
7366 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 4:26 am to
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because there's plenty of catfish available


Yeah, everywhere.
Posted by McCauley
Jacksonburg, WV
Member since Jan 2023
264 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 5:16 am to
I guess being from the north I just don't see too many places that serve catfish. Catfish is more prevalent in the south, especially gulf coast states.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69049 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:47 am to
I never get tilapia. I wouldn't be able to avoid red snapper tacos.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 6:47 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69049 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 6:48 am to
Here catfish is like the only popular fresh water fish. Up north all they eat is fresh water fish.
This post was edited on 2/1/23 at 9:26 am
Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
8840 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:35 am to
Have always wondered if Crawford's in BR uses Swai since they call their fish "C-Fish" and not catfish.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7490 posts
Posted on 2/1/23 at 8:51 am to
A few restaurants in CENLA got cited for this a few years ago. LINK /

They all changed their menu from "fried catfish" to "fried fish". I don't go to these anymore because I think it's deceiving
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