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re: Baton Rouge Laws vs. Growler Fills

Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134839 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:05 pm to
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I also saw something about companies that send you beer being told they can't send it to Louisiana anymore.

I know my folks can't get their quarterly wine shipments from CA anymore. Not sure what the reason is, though.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90437 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:09 pm to
Iirc, California hasn't been able to send LA wine for a long time
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134839 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:26 pm to
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Iirc, California hasn't been able to send LA wine for a long time

It started about 6 months into the JBE admin.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
66992 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:42 pm to
BR legalized it, but the ATC is regulating it as though it is illegal. The ATC guy owns interests in several bars which do not serve growler and is using his authority to punish his competitors who serve growlers.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 3:44 pm
Posted by LSURoss
SWLAish
Member since Dec 2007
15239 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:18 pm to
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BR legalized it, but the ATC is regulating it as though it is illegal. The ATC guy owns interests in several bars which do not serve growler and is using his authority to punish his competitors who serve growlers.


Prove it. This is how stupid rumors get started.
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:22 pm to
Wine is dependent on the size of the winery if I recall correctly. In order to ship directly to customers in LA the winery has to produce under a certain number of barrels/cases per year. If they are too big, they have to go through a distributor. And the threshold for production is fairly low.
Posted by Jones
Member since Oct 2005
90437 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:37 pm to
Gotcha.

Yea I was at a winery in California last year and our host said she wasn't able to mail any wine back to LA. It sucks because they had some great wines.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 6:38 pm
Posted by BR Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2004
4157 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 6:53 pm to
We have to have some shipped to family in another state who come to LA regularly.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27058 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:12 pm to
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The ATC guy


Isn't it a woman now?

Regardless, the ATC has a long history of ineptitude and dick measuring. They decide to interpret laws with the direction of the wind.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:45 pm to
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Iirc, California hasn't been able to send LA wine for a long time


I get a couple of cases a month and have for 5 years. I just signed for a case of Shypoke yesterday.

Some wineries don't want to get the direct shipping permit because they have to pay Louisiana sales tax and it is easier to go through 3rd party like FedEx or Napa Buffalo Shipping.

If it is a winery that has distribution in Louisiana they can ship only wines they make that are not currently being sold through distribution and they have to have a direct shipping permit.

Very few that I buy don't come straight from the winery.

I know nothing about the beer law. I know Bear Republic had troubles with their distribution (was told they got jacked around on the money and just pulled it) which is why I can't get Racer5 here anymore.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38625 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:21 pm to
couple staff people said ATC was hassling gnarly barley in Hammond when I was over there Saturday
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16255 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 10:31 pm to
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Regardless, the ATC has a long history of ineptitude and dick measuring. They decide to interpret laws with the direction of the wind.


And the wind is howling right now. Hopefully I can share some more info soon. Now is not the time, at least until one issue gets resolved.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24334 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:41 am to
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Chimes east fills growlers


Not anymore, the bar tender said they came in and even took the crowler machine. So fricking stupid, they said they were told it was a labeling issue, they were taking a beer product out of its packaging and putting it into a can or growler with a different package.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52748 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:50 am to
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Not anymore, the bar tender said they came in and even took the crowler machine.


How can they "take" a crowler machine? ATC didn't spend money on it, Chimes did.

quote:

they said they were told it was a labeling issue, they were taking a beer product out of its packaging and putting it into a can or growler with a different package.


If true, such stupidity.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21103 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 7:52 am to
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Not anymore, the bar tender said they came in and even took the crowler machine. So fricking stupid, they said they were told it was a labeling issue, they were taking a beer product out of its packaging and putting it into a can or growler with a different package.


Didnt the atc is texas try to say the same bullshite and the courts shut it down?
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16255 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 8:43 am to
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How can they "take" a crowler machine? ATC didn't spend money on it, Chimes did.


It wasn't taken. Chimes employees just moved it to the back, since it couldn't be used.

I don't know the status of things there at the moment. Hope to find out soon.
Posted by LSU-MNCBABY
Knightsgate
Member since Jan 2004
24334 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:14 am to
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t wasn't taken. Chimes employees just moved it to the back, since it couldn't be used.

I don't know the status of things there at the moment. Hope to find out soon.


Ah, the bartender told jmtigers and I that the ATC took it, makes more sense chimes just removed it.


Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
14886 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:10 pm to
did this ever get resolved? chimes never started filling growlers/crowlers again as far as i know....
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101914 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:13 pm to
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did this ever get resolved? chimes never started filling growlers/crowlers again as far as i know....


Sort of.

But... not really.


Bars and breweries can apply for a growler/crowler permit and sell them to-go. I know Corporate Brew & Draft and Tin Roof have done so and have been selling them for a month or so now.

However, due to some omission on the part of whomever wrote this new rule, places with a restaurant license (i.e. Chimes) can't apply for the permit, so that omission still needs to be corrected.

No clue what the status of that is, is the person who put this through the Metro Council still there? And would this pass through the current regime?
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
11850 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:19 pm to
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Prove it. This is how stupid rumors get started.

You appear to be confusing an internet message board with a court of law.
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