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re: Baton Rouge Laws vs. Growler Fills

Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:27 pm to
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However, due to some omission on the part of whomever wrote this new rule, places with a restaurant license (i.e. Chimes) can't apply for the permit, so that omission still needs to be corrected.



ugh...par for the course around here i guess
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28240 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:36 pm to
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However, due to some omission on the part of whomever wrote this new rule, places with a restaurant license (i.e. Chimes) can't apply for the permit, so that omission still needs to be corrected.



Are there any brewpubs serving food and beer in LA? I can't think of any, but I'm obviously not in LA, so what do I know?

Seems like I heard something to the effect that because a brewpub has to sell all of it's beer on premise. Is that discouraging brewpubs from opening up, because they can't expand to distributing beyond what they can sell on premise? What laws would need to change to encourage brewpubs?

If you have good food and a fun atmosphere, even a shitty brewery can do pretty well. If you have good food, good beer, and a good atmosphere, people will beat a path to your door. If you have great food and beer, it can get out of hand...

Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
43482 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:44 pm to
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this is some bullshite... chimes still isnt posting crowler prices so i assume its still a no go



Checked with CHimes highland yesterday and no, can't do growler/crowlers.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104486 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:48 pm to
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Are there any brewpubs serving food and beer in LA?

Yes, Crescent City Brewhouse and Old Rail.

Plus Courtyard is permitted as a Brewpub, but they don't serve food.

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Seems like I heard something to the effect that because a brewpub has to sell all of it's beer on premise.


That's correct.

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Is that discouraging brewpubs from opening up, because they can't expand to distributing beyond what they can sell on premise? What laws would need to change to encourage brewpubs?


I don't know the answer to this, but obviously allowing small breweries and brewpubs to self-distribute a portion of their product would be a good thing.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28240 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 1:56 pm to
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I don't know the answer to this, but obviously allowing small breweries and brewpubs to self-distribute a portion of their product would be a good thing.


That's where I was going with this. These places don't make enough beer to warrant a contract with a distributor, and they don't always know when they'll have too much beer on hand. If they have an extra keg or two, taprooms would be happy to help them out.

I see a lot of that happening with the smaller breweries, and I'm sure it makes it much easier for them to be successful and would be a lot less stressful for the brewers. Small brewpubs can't afford to be worrying about making too much beer and having to dump it, or constantly scaling down when they have too much inventory.

Just that one little change could do so much for micro-breweries in LA.
This post was edited on 3/20/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted by jivy26
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:01 pm to
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Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15154 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:02 pm to
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No growler fills but you can still get a daquiri in a 44 oz cup with a straw and move on like it's nobody's business :D



aint that something....
Posted by txbd
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2014
2340 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:05 pm to
I always thought you could distribute, if you were a brewpub, if you brew off premises. So one could start off as a Courtyard type brewpub and once they get enough capital they could then open up a second location (like a warehouse) to act as a brewery for distribution.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104486 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:06 pm to
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No growler fills but you can still get a daquiri in a 44 oz cup with a straw and move on like it's nobody's business :D


Not technically legal in EBR... but no one seems to care.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104486 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:11 pm to
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I always thought you could distribute, if you were a brewpub, if you brew off premises. So one could start off as a Courtyard type brewpub and once they get enough capital they could then open up a second location (like a warehouse) to act as a brewery for distribution.


While I guess this is in theory possible, anything brewed at the off-premise brewery would have to go through a distributor just to get back to the original brewpub. And distributors aren't supposed to be able to specifically allocate any beer for a certain establishment. So if Courtyard's theoretical off-premise brewery had a fresh batch of FTATC DIPA but Bulldog (or anyone else) wanted a bunch of it, Courtyard's original brewpub could get screwed out of their share of their own beer.

At least as far as I understand the current laws and interpretations.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Vero Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2005
28240 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:12 pm to
Brewpubs just seem to be able to print money if they are even halfway decent. Even a place like BJ's with horrible beer seems to do well. If a brewpub makes good beer and good food, craft beer fans will have a place to take their family and everyone is happy...
Posted by txbd
Valhalla
Member since Jan 2014
2340 posts
Posted on 3/20/17 at 2:30 pm to
Yup. I am very excited for Noble Wave Brewpub to hit Baton Rouge later this year/next year. Hopefully they serve up some juice!
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