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Is LSU the next Tennessee?

Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:06 pm
Posted by bholl999
Winnfield
Member since Feb 2016
190 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:06 pm
Next to the Crimson Tide Tennessee used to be a perennial powerhouse program. The 9th winningest FBS program of all-time. It hasn't been in the final top 10 since 2001. Why, like LSU coaches recruit 4 and 5 star players and downgrade them to 2 star players. Lack of development, rather, inability to develop. Coach O has no clue. 2019 was the exception, not the rule. Keep O fans will go. Players revolt. That's all folks.
Posted by bholl999
Winnfield
Member since Feb 2016
190 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:10 pm to
LSU must hire a coach who has a PROVEN track record on developing all that talent the great State of Louisiana has to offer. Louisiana is a recruiters dream. I grew up there. Every FBS program foams at the mouth to get Louisiana recruits into their program.
Posted by DamnStrong1860
The Second City
Member since Oct 2012
3001 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

Is LSU the next Tennessee?


No. Les was our Fulmer. We survived firing him and O actually won a ship. Everyone understands this hire is important. Scott won’t miss. We good. . .
Posted by Jar_Jar_80
Member since Oct 2013
1964 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:28 pm to
LSU is the only P5 school in one of the most talent rich states in the country we have won 2 national championship and been to another championship game under fricking Les Miles and Special Ed.
Posted by tigre704
Member since Nov 2018
1704 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:28 pm to
the only way we fall that far is if the money runs dry....and shite, thats possible, but the factors that led to Nebraska, Tennessee, FSU, etc falling are not present at LSU.

I think its more likely we look like USC or Texas--a talented but undisciplined team that gets destroyed in the trenches by better coached teams.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45195 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:30 pm to
Louisiana has some
Of the best talent in the country Tennessee has little instate talent. Big differences
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
74068 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:30 pm to
Regardless of what this board thinks, LSU is a premier job. All the resources you could ask for, plenty of local talent to recruit, no major in-state competition. It'll take a good hire to get us back on track, but I have faith in Woody to find the right guy.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9356 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 9:41 pm to
Shut your whore mouth!
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17741 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:42 pm to
So much instate talent LA vs Tenn
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16516 posts
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:07 pm to
If we replace Ed with Ed we'll be worse than UTenn.

Before last year and now, I didn't think I'd ever see what I'm seeing at LSU. We were .500 last year (and fortunate to be that) and in all honesty it's hard to see winning another game other than ULM.

We have a much better recruiting footprint than UTenn so there's that but I no longer casually dismiss the OP's question.

Posted by Syntax
FL390
Member since Aug 2020
964 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 12:31 am to
fricking troll! Eat shite asswpie
Posted by AugustaTiger
Augusta, Georgia
Member since Dec 2017
743 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 6:09 am to
Well, Tennessee hired y’all’s boy Kiffin after Fulmer and a lot of Tennessee fans point to that hire and subsequent walking out as the point which the program changed.

Since ‘08 they’ve had 6 different head coaches and 2 more interims.

We cannot afford 8 different people at the helm of our program over the next 13 years. We have to make the right hire and give him time.

I’m worried that with SEC expansion if we don’t get it figured out quick, we are going to be relegated to the basement.
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 6:10 am
Posted by bayoubooga
Member since Oct 2021
236 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 6:10 am to
If you understand recruiting you'll understand why this won't happen.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14933 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 6:29 am to
The simple short answer is no based on demographics.

We aren’t UT because we have a built in recruiting advantage. When LSU has a coach that puts the wall up around Louisiana we end up with golden years.

UT isn’t capable of doing that. LSU has proved it can win with two of the dumbest coaches around.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
4989 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:02 am to
No....Woodward has a great track record wherever he has been. He has worked under Mark Emmert and when Emmert went to Washington, he eventually got him up there and changed everything up there. Brought in Chris Peterson, had facilities built, brought in money, and increased the budget significantly.
A&M he snagged Fisher.
LSU he snagged K. Mulkey, Jay Johnson.
His track record is proven and he won't let this become Tenn. I think that is one reason Kiffin will not be the guy.
Just "Stay Calm"
It will be OK.


Posted by TopWaterTiger
Lake Charles, LA
Member since May 2006
10224 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:05 am to
There were some very similar parallels to Fulmer at UT and Miles at LSU. Although I did think it was time for Miles to go, I remember saying at the time, be careful, because you don't want to see LSU end up like UT. I think most fans agree we would be happy for a "Miles down year" right about now at 9-3.

History has shown that more often than not, a new coach doesn't keep a program running in the top tier...look at UF after Spurrier, UT after Fulmer, LSU after Charlie Mac, Bama after Bear....etc.

Now history is on LSU's side in that 3 different coaches have won a NC with LSU, so the talent in state is there.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Is LSU the next Tennessee?


No, and it's not even close.....LSU is not Tennessee and for that matter, I'll add Nebraska....

LSU will be back in top 10/top 5 contention in short order with the right hire.

LSU has way more "natural resources" to draw upon than Tennessee (or Nebraska, which I added).
Posted by texastigerr
Texas
Member since Jan 2005
8310 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:30 am to
No. Tennessee has recruiting issues geographically that LSU does not have.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18154 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:31 am to
quote:

Is LSU the next Tennessee?
no. There's too much talent in Louisiana, with no real in-state competition.

The state of Tennessee doesn't have much.

Now, even with tons of talent, a bad coach can produce bad results, as we're seeing now.

But a good coach can instantly turn things around here.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5750 posts
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:32 am to
They had Phil Fulmer as their AD, we have Scott Woodward. Phil was sabotaging their program for years and was a terrible AD
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