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re: Do Americans Know What a Massive Ripoff American Life Really Is?

Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:36 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
27350 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:36 pm to
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How much do I pay for internet and TV in Europe? About thirty dollars, give or take. How much do I pay in America? $150. That’s five times as much. And what I get in America is way, way worse.
I see he didn’t mention the UK tv license.

Yes, you need a license in the UK to watch your tv. It costs about $210 per year.

And I’m looking online at Sky Satellite TV packages in London, and they aren’t any cheaper than what you get here with Dish or DirecTV.

My take is that guy is being extremely disingenuous.


Oh, and also, looking at their TV channels, it seems about half of them are American channels. How many UK channels do we get on our cable/satellite packages? Maybe, what.. 2? Maybe Sky News and BBC America? The British consume a bunch of American TV, yet this guy wants to act like European tv is superior.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 3:46 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49444 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:37 pm to
America has basically become an oligarch at this point, you have the corporations and ultra rich buying lobbyists and politicians through backroom deals, donations, among other tactics. The media also has become the biggest cheerleader for the new oligarchs, watch anytime some bill is proposed that would vastly benefit the middle class and poor. We get the same old argument, "Oh how can we afford this or oh this is socialism", you never hear this when massive bailouts are proposed or we invade a new country of course not.

Speaking of "socialism" let's talk about some actual socialism. Why is it that if people want everyone to have access to proper healthcare there's always this ridiculous take about how we'd basically be Venezuela or Cuba. But, when we spend trillions on wars Americans don't want or we use tax payer money to bail out companies that were doing shady shite that's not socialism at all when it's quite literally socialism for the rich.

And the media does this great little trick too, to distract Americans from all this shady shite. Get your average voter worked up about random bullshite like statues or mean tweets meanwhile the oligarchy just keeps on chugging along


TL:DR America is currently and has been run by an very wealthy few who love bailing each other out and using taxpayer money for their own interests and have used the media to distract the average American into thinking their fellow Americans are the true enemy because they vote dfferently
Posted by Devilsturn
Member since Aug 2020
253 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:51 pm to
Well at least I don’t pay 60% of my income in taxes and don’t have to spend 1MM on a 900sqft house….yet.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
13780 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 3:52 pm to
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I’ve recently moved to the States


Then go back home. We dont want you.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
120023 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:02 pm to
Generally not wrong.


We have 5x the govt than we need to pay for, and many companies have at least 2x the number of employees they need to do their work.

All that costs taxpayers and consumers more than it should.
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10929 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:04 pm to
I aint reading that bullshite...frick her

quote:

Umair haque


Born to be wild

This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 4:07 pm
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63558 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:06 pm to
What a hateful, vitriolic foreigner. No doubt he hated America before he even moved here. I wonder which city he lives in full of those terrible people.
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4361 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:22 pm to
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They go into debt. Deeply into debt. So deep that the average American now dies underwater to the tune of about $60,000. They’ve spent a lifetime paying off debts that they can never fully make good on — precisely because the system is rigged against them.


This part is BS too. Average net worth here is $746K with the median net worth at $121K. Older Americans usually have much higher net worth. Only the very poor or young die in debt.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41298 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:25 pm to
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Let’s take utility bills. They’re astronomical in America compared to the rest of the rich world, and even much of the rest of the world period.


Compare what % of Americans have A/C in their homes vs. Europe and then the rest of the world.
Posted by stelly1025
Lafayette
Member since May 2012
8570 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:33 pm to
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How much do I pay for internet and TV in Europe? About thirty dollars, give or take. How much do I pay in America? $150. 


My internet bill is 20 Euros ,but it is only DSL speeds. I live in the center of Nürnberg and that is all that is available where I live. Where high-speed internet is available you pay for it along with a mandatory 20 Euros a month per household for regular TV. Germany is really lacking there in many areas with high speed internet.

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Let’s take utility bills. They’re astronomical in America compared to the rest of the rich world, and even much of the rest of the world period. Heating, electricity, gas, water? These things can easily add up to $500 to $1000 dollars per month. That’s not even factoring in property taxes and maintenance costs and whatnot. Americans have no idea, but in Europe I’d pay maybe — maybe — half that, if even that much.


This is an outright lie... I can tell you for a fact that that heating, electricity, gas, water, maintenance, and taxes are significantly higher in Europe. My wife and I own 28 rental properties in Germany. This statement is full of shite.

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 I don’t get the wonderful and illuminating and sparkling stuff that European TV makes on a regular basis, from good coverage of global affairs to politics to economics to ground-breaking shows and movies. 


The media here is almost as bad as ours.


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How much does it cost to just…have a place to live? The average American rental is about $1200. That’s for an apartment. Again, that’s a particularly high figure. It doesn’t cost that much to rent in Europe. In France, the the average house rental costs less than that — it’s about 800 euros, or maybe $1000 dollars.


That depends on where you live and how much space you have. A woman my wife works with pays for a small 2 bedroom apartment in Munich 1600 Euros cold.


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The sad truth is that nobody can afford to live that way, at least not in a modern society. We know that because the average American doesn’t. They go into debt. Deeply into debt. So deep that the average American now dies underwater to the tune of about $60,000. They’ve spent a lifetime paying off debts that they can never fully make good on — precisely because the system is rigged against them.


The sad truth is that many Americans are too stupid to manage money and do not understand their economic reality. This guy who wrote this is an idiot and most people in the Western World who are poor it is because of shitty money management.
Posted by RummelTiger
Texas
Member since Aug 2004
90191 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:35 pm to
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They’ve spent a lifetime paying off debts that they can never fully make good on — precisely because the system is rigged against them.


Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124688 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:35 pm to
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How much does it cost to just…have a place to live? The average American rental is about $1200. That’s for an apartment. Again, that’s a particularly high figure. It doesn’t cost that much to rent in Europe. In France, the the average house rental costs less than that — it’s about 800 euros, or maybe $1000 dollars.
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
1863 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:39 pm to
You know what’s gotten really expensive?



Columbian hookers.


Very expensive these days.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 4:50 pm to
The minute I get a $500 utility bill I'll take a nice long look at Europe, I promise.
Posted by Daequalizer
Member since Aug 2021
1310 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:09 pm to
Then go live somewhere else ya cuck.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30527 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:19 pm to
I bet every single one of his "solutions"* involves governmental action.




* to problems that don't exist
Posted by Limitlesstigers
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2019
3020 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:27 pm to
He has a point about internet though. The internet I had in Japan was half the price and just as fast as my LUS fiber internet and 2× the speed of the Comcast I had in Texas.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40211 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:36 pm to
Dude, You are full of shite! My daughter lives in England. She and her husband are PhDs, and with two incomes and two kids, they don’t live anywhere near as well as my other kids who live in the States. Puny house in Nottingham that is actually half of a double. I’m guessing it is 1400 square feet.

I’ve rented Air B&Bs all over Europe, and it’s very difficult to find anything close to a basic middle class American home.

As PJ O’Rourke once wrote, “We live better, walk taller and frick longer than any of you needle-dick foreigners. When we snort Coke in Houston people lose their hats in Caps D’Antibes. And our bank accounts are bigger than your piss-arse metric numbers go!

I paraphrase, of course.
Posted by DaBeerz
Member since Sep 2004
17068 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:41 pm to
He’s not wrong….we paid 3200$ a month once for a 2 BR apt in Arlington, va…. 2300 for 700 sqft apt in downtown dc for 2 years.
This post was edited on 9/28/21 at 8:08 pm
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7635 posts
Posted on 9/28/21 at 6:42 pm to
Go back where you came from Asshat
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