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Today is the 17 year anniversary of the 'Killdozer'
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:19 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:19 am
A man that became fed up with local politics and BS took matters into his own hands
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quote:
Heemeyer had feuded with Granby town officials, particularly over fines for violating city health ordinances after local officials made it financially impossible for Heemeyer to connect to the city sewage system. He was subsequently fined for improperly dumping sewage from his business instead of connecting to the city sewer system. His feud came to a head[colloquialism] on June 4, 2004. Over about eighteen months Heemeyer had secretly modified a Komatsu D355A bulldozer by adding layers of steel and concrete, intended to serve as armor.[1] He used this to demolish the Granby town hall, the former mayor's house, and several other buildings. Heemeyer's rampage concluded with his suicide, after his bulldozer became trapped in the basement of a hardware store he had been in the process of destroying.
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The attack lasted for two hours and seven minutes, damaging thirteen buildings,[7] knocking out natural gas service to the town hall and the concrete plant, damaging a truck, and destroying part of a utility service center.[9] Despite the great damage to property, no one besides Heemeyer (by a self-inflicted gunshot wound) was killed in the event.[1] However, the modified bulldozer came to be known as "Killdozer" after the name of a short story by Theodore Sturgeon.[10] The damage was estimated at $7 million.[11][12] According to Grand County commissioner James Newberry, emergency dispatchers used the reverse 911 emergency system to notify many residents and property owners of the rampage going on in the town.
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This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 8:21 am
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:20 am to stout
Happy Killdozer Day!
The Ballad of Killdozer
Well Marvin was a welder, just a humble working man,
In Granby, Colorado, where he’d make his final stand,
So now I’ll tell his tale so heed the lesson that he brings
“Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things”
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
He owned a couple acres and a shop to make repairs,
Not a man to wrong another without cause,’
But some bureaucrats decided that he wasn’t good enough,
And so they destroyed his livelihood with laws,
They had finished Marvin’s business,
Left him no way in or out,
By the red tape one more common man screwed over,
But inside Heemeyer spied unfinished business of his own,
When with vengeance on his mind he eyed his Dozer
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
For 18 months he built it,
Cement sandwiched within steel,
A cocoon of revenge filled with screens and guns,
With an armor plated engine,
This behemoth with a blade,
When complete it weighed in over 60 tons
On fourth of June he climbed into his tomb,
And sealed it shut,
Greased the sides so none could climb this beast of metal,
There was no door, created for it,
He just smashed right through the walls,
His legend roared as to the floor he pushed the pedal,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
The plant that caused it all, was first to fall, and the the town hall,
Then the dens of all the men who’d done him wrong,
When the cops, they tried to stop it,
bombs and guns could not prevail,
They all failed for the Killdozer was too strong,
Bridge:
Then to challenge him in the road,
On a metal beast of his own,
Sat the man who had used the machine of state,
To take Heemeyer’s Land,
But Now Killdozer Stands,
Two Treads Driven By Fate
Banjos and fiddles duel
And though some may call him crazy,
Sometimes every normal man,
Feels the urge to hoist the black flag,
And put spit upon his hands,p
In his defense,
No innocents,
Were harmed in his destruction,
He met his end,
Buried within,
A tomb of his construction,
So if you’re feeling small,
Then just recall, And give some thanks,
When they step upon the little man,
Somewhere killdozer cranks!,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-o-ozer!
When you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
“Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things”
The Ballad of Killdozer
Well Marvin was a welder, just a humble working man,
In Granby, Colorado, where he’d make his final stand,
So now I’ll tell his tale so heed the lesson that he brings
“Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things”
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
He owned a couple acres and a shop to make repairs,
Not a man to wrong another without cause,’
But some bureaucrats decided that he wasn’t good enough,
And so they destroyed his livelihood with laws,
They had finished Marvin’s business,
Left him no way in or out,
By the red tape one more common man screwed over,
But inside Heemeyer spied unfinished business of his own,
When with vengeance on his mind he eyed his Dozer
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
For 18 months he built it,
Cement sandwiched within steel,
A cocoon of revenge filled with screens and guns,
With an armor plated engine,
This behemoth with a blade,
When complete it weighed in over 60 tons
On fourth of June he climbed into his tomb,
And sealed it shut,
Greased the sides so none could climb this beast of metal,
There was no door, created for it,
He just smashed right through the walls,
His legend roared as to the floor he pushed the pedal,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
when you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
The plant that caused it all, was first to fall, and the the town hall,
Then the dens of all the men who’d done him wrong,
When the cops, they tried to stop it,
bombs and guns could not prevail,
They all failed for the Killdozer was too strong,
Bridge:
Then to challenge him in the road,
On a metal beast of his own,
Sat the man who had used the machine of state,
To take Heemeyer’s Land,
But Now Killdozer Stands,
Two Treads Driven By Fate
Banjos and fiddles duel
And though some may call him crazy,
Sometimes every normal man,
Feels the urge to hoist the black flag,
And put spit upon his hands,p
In his defense,
No innocents,
Were harmed in his destruction,
He met his end,
Buried within,
A tomb of his construction,
So if you’re feeling small,
Then just recall, And give some thanks,
When they step upon the little man,
Somewhere killdozer cranks!,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-ozer!
You know sometimes a man he just refuses to surrender,
Killdozer! Killdo-o-o-ozer!
When you mess with such a man he’ll give you something to remember
“Sometimes reasonable men must do unreasonable things”
This post was edited on 6/4/21 at 8:33 am
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:22 am to stout
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:22 am to stout
The hero we need
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:32 am to stout
Shame he died. He would make a great OTer.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:43 am to stout
Hero
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:44 am to stout
"Falling Down"
Posted on 6/4/21 at 8:59 am to stout
I'm more of a Billdozer kind of guy
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:12 am to stout
Glad the stupid bastard is dead.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:17 am to stout
I watched a documentary on this awhile back, I never heard about it until watching it.
It might not have been the best thing to do.. But I understand. If I recall he moved into the town so he wasn't part of the "good ole boy" way of politics which was pretty much the reason they pretty much harassed him.
If small town politicians play small town politics with the wrong people, things like this happen.
It might not have been the best thing to do.. But I understand. If I recall he moved into the town so he wasn't part of the "good ole boy" way of politics which was pretty much the reason they pretty much harassed him.
If small town politicians play small town politics with the wrong people, things like this happen.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:18 am to stout
This would have been national news had Reagan not died around the same time. I hadn't heard of this incident before until I watched "Tread" on Netflix.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:20 am to stout
I wonder what he would have done as a result of COVID shut downs. The shocking thing to me is that there hasn’t been an issue like this this year in places like California or Michigan.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:20 am to stout
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Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:20 am to stout
We need to have a killdozer anniversary celebration every year. The guy was a great American, the kind of man who, though misguided, scares the shite out of the ruling class.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:24 am to stout
There is a busy intersection in Tuscaloosa that once had a gas station on the corner. The city added a turn lane and due to newer EPA restrictions, it effectively shut down this guy's gas station for good. He's been pissed off at city council for various reasons, but the end result is there sits a boarded up gas station eyesore right at the busiest intersection in town.
Would not be surprised if this guy built a killdozer.
Would not be surprised if this guy built a killdozer.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:28 am to stout
this is exactly the hero we needed in the year of gov overreach
Posted on 6/4/21 at 9:45 am to stout
This needs to happen all over America.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 12:35 pm to stout
Late to this thread.
I've read two books on this subject and there is lots of misinformation floating around on this thread. There are also several podcasts out there with various amounts of accuracy and bias.
The "Tread" documentary is actually a very good fact based film. They do a good job of representing both sides of the story and the interviews with people on both sides of the story are compelling. It is one of the very few documentaries that appears unbiased and it is compelling at how certain events are viewed much differently by both sides.
Heemeyer was certainly treated unfairly in Granby but it is my opinion he brought much of this on himself. His dispute with Docheff reads like a classic neighbor dispute where neither party was right and both wanted to participate in a dick-measuring contest.
A sane person would have chalked up their losses and moved on with their life. Heemeyer couldn't let things go and chose to end his life over the issue. He was clearly unhealthily obsessed and descended into madness.
With that said, I actually admire his determination and commitment to his cause. He felt he was righteous in his actions and acted accordingly. Do I agree with his decisions? No, we don't bulldoze other people's property in a civilized society.
Watch Tread and read a few books if you are interested:
Malice
Killdozer
I've read two books on this subject and there is lots of misinformation floating around on this thread. There are also several podcasts out there with various amounts of accuracy and bias.
The "Tread" documentary is actually a very good fact based film. They do a good job of representing both sides of the story and the interviews with people on both sides of the story are compelling. It is one of the very few documentaries that appears unbiased and it is compelling at how certain events are viewed much differently by both sides.
Heemeyer was certainly treated unfairly in Granby but it is my opinion he brought much of this on himself. His dispute with Docheff reads like a classic neighbor dispute where neither party was right and both wanted to participate in a dick-measuring contest.
A sane person would have chalked up their losses and moved on with their life. Heemeyer couldn't let things go and chose to end his life over the issue. He was clearly unhealthily obsessed and descended into madness.
With that said, I actually admire his determination and commitment to his cause. He felt he was righteous in his actions and acted accordingly. Do I agree with his decisions? No, we don't bulldoze other people's property in a civilized society.
Watch Tread and read a few books if you are interested:
Malice
Killdozer
Posted on 6/4/21 at 1:37 pm to stout
The moral relativism behind folk heroes is interesting. The amount of crime and general mayhem people will overlook if they can identify with the plight of the person(s) is fascinating. Most people engage in it at times and can be seen in a vacuum with some of the movie characters that are elevated to heroes when objectively they are just villains but with a reason we can identify with.
Posted on 6/4/21 at 4:00 pm to stout
What’s the background?
Wikipedia is a bit aparce.
$2,500 seems a bit small to go killdozer over. And he sold the land for the concrete plant?
Wikipedia is a bit aparce.
quote:
In 1992, Heemeyer purchased 2 acres (0.8 ha) of land from the Resolution Trust Corporation, the federal agency organized to handle the assets of failed savings and loan associations, for $42,000 to build a muffler shop. He subsequently agreed to sell the land to Cody Docheff to build a concrete batch plant, Mountain Park Concrete, for $250,000. According to Susan Docheff, Heemeyer changed his mind and increased the price to $375,000, then to a deal worth approximately $1 million. Some[who?] believed that this negotiation happened before the rezoning proposal was heard by the town council.[5] In 2001, Granby's zoning commission and trustees approved the construction of the concrete plant. Heemeyer unsuccessfully appealed the decision, claiming the construction blocked access to his shop. He was subsequently fined $2,500[6] by the town council and a city judge for various violations, including "not being hooked up to the sewer line"; he had initially been unable to connect to the new sewer line as the line ran 60 feet (18 m) away from his property and the city expected him to pay the nearly $80,000 cost of laying the connector.
$2,500 seems a bit small to go killdozer over. And he sold the land for the concrete plant?
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