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If Orgeron is capable of fixing the downfall after 2019, why didn’t he prevent them?

Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:36 am
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25728 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:36 am
To fix the issues now means he has to identify them. If he’s capable of identifying what went wrong last year, why couldn’t he prevent these issues?

I feel like if he couldn’t identify the problems prior to 2020, how can he know how to fix them for 2021?
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:37 am to
so bashing Orgeron again is all the rage now?

Troy.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5718 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:39 am to
Identified the illness.

Thought he had the right medicine.

The medicine was beyond its effective date.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35510 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:39 am to
I can forgive a coach for having tunnel vision on his way to a perfect season. As it is, we finished 500 in an all SEC schedule in an off year where we lost our starting QB early and had to replace a DC and Heisman winning QB from the year before.

Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:40 am to
quote:

To fix the issues now means he has to identify them. If he’s capable of identifying what went wrong last year, why couldn’t he prevent these issues?


Not saying he can turn it around but being able to fix problems is a totally different thing and skillset than being able to see a problem coming.
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
Quantico
Member since May 2013
9299 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:52 am to
You're mad that he can't predict the future?

Look I have really high expectations for our HCs in every sport but being a seer isn't one of them.
Posted by irishTiger18
Chicago
Member since Oct 2019
687 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:54 am to
Ever got lazy in a relationship and got broken up with? With your logic, if that happens to you, you'll never have a good relationship going forward.
Posted by Dennis4LSU
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2008
4481 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:56 am to
quote:

To fix the issues now means he has to identify them. If he’s capable of identifying what went wrong last year, why couldn’t he prevent these issues?

I feel like if he couldn’t identify the problems prior to 2020, how can he know how to fix them for 2021?
Holy shite you are reaching
Posted by geauxcoco
Greenville, SC
Member since Apr 2007
11049 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:56 am to
Well hopefully this year there won’t be a pandemic or a black lives matter movement. That might help.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
15139 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:56 am to
Well it was too late to stop them after they were noticed last year.

We had some very odd things happen.

Also it’s very hard to keep a team at the top it took Saban 3 tries to get the machine he has now.

LSU 03 he was ahead of schedule and we even had a step back in 04

Bama 09 he had a bad step back in 2010

Bama 11 is when he started his current domination.
Posted by Tigercowboy
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
4134 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:58 am to
He was too busy writing a book, divorcing his wife, and chasing tail to go out and hire quality replacements on his staff. Dude was living the life he couldn’t be bothered by doing his job.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13082 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 11:58 am to
Because every time a kitten touches itself at night, god kills you.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3435 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:18 pm to
Nobody would have been capable of stopping the issues LSU dealt with last year. Most of the issues were far beyond a coaches control.that doesn’t mean he didn’t make mistakes (Bo). There are things to clean up and he seems to have addressed those. This year will show a lot one way or the other.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
6868 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:21 pm to
Any suggestions from you?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40224 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:22 pm to
Because it's harder to stay at the top then it is to get to the top. Counterintuitive, but true.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
93960 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:33 pm to
We're on to Cincinnati
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11283 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:34 pm to
We had a young immature team. Couple that with covid shutdowns in offseason with new coordinators so limited time to install anything. Throw in some race baiting , all sec schedule, and injuries and we were fortunate to do as well as we did.

This is not an excuse. It’s facts and it shows why trying to surround a recruiter as a HC with elite coordinators is not a feasible strategy for sustained success.
Posted by TIGERSby10
Central Lafourche
Member since Nov 2005
6977 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:36 pm to
To the OP: If you were capable of not starting a stupid thread today, why didn't you prevent it?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67781 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:44 pm to
Some of it wasn’t completely foreseeable

Chase, Vincent , Tyler would have all been back if not for Covid.

Most people don’t expect every player to leave at the same time and their starting QB to get hurt, their backup get accused of rape.

There were mistakes made for sure. Bo and Linehan were bad hires.

By the end of the season we were starting 1-2 guys from 2019. When Stingley was hurt and Marshall quit.

Aranda leaving was probably expected but I dont Think before 2019 he could have foreseen Brady getting an NFL OC job.
This post was edited on 3/16/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279511 posts
Posted on 3/16/21 at 12:44 pm to
If you thought he should be fired prior to having the best CFB season ever, what makes you think you are able to identify issues ?
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