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re: Being seduced by big water: bay boat to offshore CC
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:22 pm to Saskwatch
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:22 pm to Saskwatch
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If you have a lot of time AND money then it is a fun way to go. You can get "hybrid" boats in the close to 30ft range. My biggest issue is that an offshore day generally consumes about two days of work and I don't have full weekends to give up very regularly.
This is where I am. You’ve got to be available pretty damn often to get your money out of an offshore boat.
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Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:24 pm to KemoSabe65
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Your crew is second most important need besides the $$$.
This. Depending on what you mean by offshore, I assume blue water. I fish on a friends 32 contender fairly often. It’s the same 5 or 6 of us that all know the program for fueling up, getting ice, catching bait, keeping the boat washed down during the day, and cleaning/trailering the boat at the end of the day. And we all split expenses. It’s still expensive, we’re still tired, and the window to go offshore comfortably can be small for a weekend warrior. That being said, I go everytime I can and if I’m ever in a position to buy and maintain an offshore boat without feeling it financially, I’ll probably do it.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:26 pm to CharlesLSU
I moved my 25’ cat from Venice to Freeport during the oil spill. While we had some fun it was so much harder to fish because of several factors:
1). It’s so much further to deep water. I ran 75 miles and was in 150 feet.
2) it’s windier here so it is much harder to find days to fish
3) there are fewer rigs so you have to fish reefs and other bottom structure so you have to have much better electronics.
What the poster above said about young men, middle aged men and old men is true. The guys that do offshore well are middle aged and pretty much all own successful businesses that they can go whenever conditions allow. I have my own business now but less time than before..hope that within a few years that can change.
1). It’s so much further to deep water. I ran 75 miles and was in 150 feet.
2) it’s windier here so it is much harder to find days to fish
3) there are fewer rigs so you have to fish reefs and other bottom structure so you have to have much better electronics.
What the poster above said about young men, middle aged men and old men is true. The guys that do offshore well are middle aged and pretty much all own successful businesses that they can go whenever conditions allow. I have my own business now but less time than before..hope that within a few years that can change.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 1:38 pm to CharlesLSU
I know a guy selling a VERY gently used 30ft 2014 Seahunt with twin 300s Yams. May have 150 hours on the engines. Damn near mint. He plans on listing it in April. Selling with all of his offshore tackle, 50s and 80s and trolling equip
Posted on 2/20/21 at 2:15 pm to CharlesLSU
That Sportsman 267 masters would be a good offshore boat and can still fish inshore
Yeah ur close to la. , fish here, catch more fish.... lol....
Yeah ur close to la. , fish here, catch more fish.... lol....
Posted on 2/20/21 at 5:08 pm to sharkfhin
One of the cheapest ways to get a true entry level blue water capable boat is a late 90’s to 2005 ish Glacier Bay 260 or 2665 with newer power and in good condition.
Should be able to find something nice for around 40-50k.
Should be able to find something nice for around 40-50k.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:41 pm to mikie421
I would suggest if your hell bent on getting your own boat be prepared to open your wallet. I primarily fish overnighters and it is straight zombie mode leaving lake charles to venice on a Friday night after work with few buddies prep boat leave 10 am Saturday fish all night run 60 miles in clean fish,boat and drive home. Then be at work on Monday for 7 am lol.Need full day recover 3 days ideally ..Prepare for motor maintenance expensive tackle (electric reels, big spinners throwing poppers,50s for chunking/live baiting, bait spinning reels, blackfin jigging reels). Expect to have 3k plus in terminal tackle and lures. (loosing butterfly jigs and poppers gets expensive fast!)165 gallons fuel (boat holds) 300 pounds ice, flat pogies, drinks, food, typical overnighter cost 800 bucks give or take split between 3 guys. Prepare for sh$t to be constantly breaking.. Also be sure to get delorme inreach and epirb minimum. Also subscription to Hilton or ripcharts is mandatory if your fishing offshore esp for pelagics. The adventure itself is so much fun and catching 50 to 100 plus pound yellowfin on chunk is awesome...Seeing flying fish getting smashed at night By tuna and hurling a popper at the blow up and get hammered is one thing everybody should
experience at least once..Also snapper and bliners and tons of other options make the opportunities endless. At the end of the day your snapper will be 100$ a pound but the memories last a lifetime with family and friends...
experience at least once..Also snapper and bliners and tons of other options make the opportunities endless. At the end of the day your snapper will be 100$ a pound but the memories last a lifetime with family and friends...
Posted on 2/20/21 at 8:59 pm to No Colors
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The problem is that young men don't have the money. Middle aged men don't have the time. And old men don't have the piss and vinegar to hit it that hard.
This is the best post I've ever read here
Posted on 2/20/21 at 9:53 pm to arczr2
Ok. Now, you’ve gone a bit to the extreme (in regard to my point of view).
I’d be driving from The Woodlands to Freeport on a Friday morning. My expectation isn’t necessarily hammering over nighters for tuna. 30-60miles off.
I’ve experienced much of what you describe but it’s from the owners perspective that I seek. You obviously know your stuff and have made sure I am too scared to go to that level. Lol.
Ideally, having a small house in Surfside Beach near the stack would be the goal.
I’d be driving from The Woodlands to Freeport on a Friday morning. My expectation isn’t necessarily hammering over nighters for tuna. 30-60miles off.
I’ve experienced much of what you describe but it’s from the owners perspective that I seek. You obviously know your stuff and have made sure I am too scared to go to that level. Lol.
Ideally, having a small house in Surfside Beach near the stack would be the goal.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:03 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Even a long weekend inshore fishing leaves me on my arse.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:14 am to jimbeam
I've fished Texas (Boomvang,Nancen,Hoover) Expect a 110 mile run out of Freeport 1 way and a boat regatta on a decent Window. I own the boat down in venice its a good time sorry to discourage you ??
Posted on 2/21/21 at 9:16 am to arczr2
not meant to be question marks. Sorry fellas.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:11 am to jimbeam
I have a hard time pulling off an offshore trip. I do well to get 3 in a year. The stars have to line up perfectly for it. Good weather, people off of work, enough people with yard passes who want to go, have some play money to burn. Its damn hard to pull off. There's a part of me that would like to have a big center console but realistically it would only get fished maybe a dozen times a year.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:11 am to arczr2
I currently own a 23 bay boat that allows us to bottom fish up to 50 miles on perfect weather occasions and routinely 25 to 30. We got rid of a 28 Pursuit to downsize to the 23. I use the bay boat 100 times more than I ever did the big boat. I live 350 miles from the gulf so the expense of the bigger boat did not make sense for the use we got out of it. We fish 5 to 6 times a year on average with our boat for 3 days at a time, but still charter for tuna at least once a year sometimes twice. We are money ahead doing it that way and it's hard to take your own boat a few times a year and expect to stay on top of tuna. With that said me and my brother have been kicking around the idea of moving up to a 33...Lol
Even if we did move up I don't think my wife will let me get rid of the bay boat, she loves taking it to the river every weekend we can all summer
Even if we did move up I don't think my wife will let me get rid of the bay boat, she loves taking it to the river every weekend we can all summer
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:13 am to Sea Hoss
I also have a buddy with a 31 Contender, to fish 100 miles offshore on his boat costs us about $750 in fuel, bait and ice.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 10:17 am to Sea Hoss
If gas prices go up like everyone thinks they will, there should be some good deals to have on mid size center consoles
Posted on 2/21/21 at 12:15 pm to arczr2
For tuna, yep. To the giant sea light.......I get that.
There are a few decent reefs (ie Liberty, etc) but few platforms like out of Fourchon/GI.
These have all been great insight. I’m honestly thinking it’d be down to a 26-27’ bay with twins. I currently have a 2200 Carolina Bay and the 2700 with 250s might be the ticket.....still would let me hit bays, albeit not quite as shallow. Good weather and I could easily do 30-50mi out.
There are a few decent reefs (ie Liberty, etc) but few platforms like out of Fourchon/GI.
These have all been great insight. I’m honestly thinking it’d be down to a 26-27’ bay with twins. I currently have a 2200 Carolina Bay and the 2700 with 250s might be the ticket.....still would let me hit bays, albeit not quite as shallow. Good weather and I could easily do 30-50mi out.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 4:26 pm to CharlesLSU
Have you looked into the 24-27 ft size catamarans? They have some really fuel efficient builds out there that reportedly run well with only a pair of 150’s. Probably your best hybrid option for occasionally running offshore. I cannot personally testify as I have not been on one to compare but I am told they will run circles around the hybrid bay boats as far as rough water capabilities.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:04 pm to Mister Bigfish
Calcutta is a solid choice with 18 month build time and high resell that move with 175’s. Buddy had a line to buy his prior to getting his freeman at list price so he sold a year out.
Posted on 2/21/21 at 5:21 pm to No Colors
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The problem is that young men don't have the money. Middle aged men don't have the time. And old men don't have the piss and vinegar to hit it that hard.
You just won the internet baw...
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