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re: Governors are mandating that

Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:18 am to
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17275 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:18 am to
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It is illegal to require masks. This is America, not a dictatorship.
Hasn't SCOTUS through various decisions essentially confirmed that Who You Are is a form of Free Speech? That your Identity is 1A?

Hiding my identity behind a mask is curtailing My 1A Right to Free Speech and is preventing me from exercising my Right to Protest.

If BLM can assemble and Protest I can Protest also.
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17927 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:20 am to
Working in healthcare operations through all this it has been abundantly clear that the CDC is a complete useless government fluff organization. If it was disbanded tomorrow no one would know it.
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77399 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:22 am to
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If the mask mandates slows the spread enough to have liberals shut the frick up I’m all for it.


nothing appeases liberals...they always find something to complain and/or be offended about...
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68425 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:22 am to
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This is the biggest pile of steaming bullshite I’ve ever read on this stupid topic. 

Nursing home like settings. Mask off it spread to more than half the population. Mask on it has slowed to a trickle.

I'm not advocating for mandates.

You can be angry and emotional about it though.
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 9:23 am
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:33 am to
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Nursing home like settings. Mask off it spread to more than half the population. Mask on it has slowed to a trickle.

I'm not advocating for mandates.

You can be angry and emotional about it though.




The masks don't work, 1.) the masks generally worn provides no real protection 2.) the masks that do possibly provide some short term protection are generally for one time use or must be properly cleaned 3.) the masks themselves are actually germ carrying items i.e. germ spreaders in most instances 4.) even if wear a proper mask, maintain it... the virus does not stop... the rate is only slightly decreased

You can be angry and emotional about it though, and a retard in your case.
Posted by wt9
Savannah, Ga
Member since Nov 2011
1123 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:35 am to
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The masks work. I've seen it first-hand

I don't want a link or study. What is your logic to back this up? If you are trolling, just say that.
I don't like masks.
1. People wear them over and over. They dont wash them. It's basically a Petri dish.
2. People don't know how to wear them. They don't cover their nose. They don't fit around there face.
3. Half the masks have an exhaust vent. If its supposed to protect others, why the F*** does it not filter what you breathe, cough, or sneeze out.
4. It has to be constantly adjusted so your hands have to be near your face more.
5. The majority of masks are not very efficient. They will eventually load up and blast all the particles at once.

The only good thing about mask is that if you dont wear one, nobody gets near you. This keeps me safe. I dont get near people and I wash my hands.
Gloves are stupid also.

Edit - I see your response above. I can't argue a nursing home setting. I am guessing you are using multiple masks a day. Also probably been trained on how wear them. I'm sure you wash your hands 10+ times a day.
I am not in or go to a nursing home. I want to be safe around the average walmart shopper. Masks make me less safe if I wear one.
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 9:42 am
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:39 am to
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The masks work. I've seen it first-hand.



Thanks for the info. Now I can make my own decision.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29722 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:41 am to
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Jake88


one of the better posters on here, and certainly a conservative

I hate seeing g our side engage in the type of bullying that we complain about from leftists

I'm not sure that I agree that masks really work, but I can disagree without attacking,NC Tigah, another Rick solid conservative that brings great insight to every topic he is in seems to agree with you...

when you say that you have seen 1sthand that they work, could you give more details?
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
14319 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:41 am to
Downvoted for cliffhanger title

But I agree with the post.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29722 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:43 am to
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Nursing home like settings. Mask off it spread to more than half the population. Mask on it has slowed to a trickle.

had not seen this when I posed my question

thanks for the answer

Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
112735 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:44 am to
Where have you seen it first hand? Curious
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29433 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:44 am to
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The politicians wont let this go away..has shite to do with mask wearing..I bet this is still going on in january..even though many dont know anyone who's had it..


I’ll ask again: if all we had to do was wear masks then why the hell did we shut everything down in the first place? I’m pretty sure there are interviews and articles from March specifically stating masks weren’t effective as justification for the shutdown.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15466 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:48 am to
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Nursing home like settings. Mask off it spread to more than half the population. Mask on it has slowed to a trickle.


Are you fricking serious right now? Uncited nursing home like settings? in an uncited study. A controlled environment which has little to nothing to do with how most people live, yet the exact environment where the largest proportion of ppl have died due to this virus. That’s your scientific evidence that masks work? And I’m the one being emotional?

Here’s my nonscientifc take. I think if we’re going to base any mandate, or even “suggestion” by mayors, governors, congress whoever and say it’s “science”- it should be Based on evidence that can be quantified in something - and “trickle” is NOT a unit of measurement. But what the frick do I know? I’m not listening to my worst fears of the unknown or anything.

Nobody. Knows. If. Masks. Work.

Masks are just virtue signaling devices so people can look like they’re “doing something.” I fricking wear one to be polite bc I pick my battles. But I’m not afraid to say it’s stupid and my wearing one is solely to protect myself from over emotional lunatics who have no idea if masks work, and say things like trickle and would probably video me or accost me in the grocery store to make themselves feel like they have control over this stupid fricking chaotic idiotic situation. I have a sneer of righteous resentment underneath my stupid, Karen-Mandated Mask. So- I am emotional about it. And my emotions are not positive. But I’m not the one trying to control
Other people with my negative emotions and calling it science. This is BAD. It’s a BAD social trend. BC Sooner or later people are going to explode.
Posted by AGreySlate
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2018
846 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:49 am to
IF the mask wearing in public works (I’m against it BTW) it’s ONLY going to slow the spread long enough to keep this a prolonged authoritarian conflict with the only ends being to influence minds come election time.

Until we achieve herd immunity we are at the whims and mercy of an uneducated oppressive Karen-esque populace and their same team tyrannous political overlords.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29722 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:51 am to
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Where have you seen it first hand? Curious


he answered, nursing homes

I believe him on this, and I have to agree that wearing masks around folks that are at risk makes a lot if sense
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29722 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:53 am to
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Here’s my nonscientifc take. I think if we’re going to base any mandate, or even “suggestion” by mayors, governors, congress whoever and say it’s “science”- it should be Based on evidence that can be quantified in something - and “trickle” is NOT a unit of measurement. But what the frick do I know? I’m not listening to my worst fears of the unknown or anything.

I agree with this as well, but I would gladly wear mask in a nursing home

out in public? I think it is ridiculous
Posted by AGreySlate
South Carolina
Member since Jun 2018
846 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:54 am to
Additionally, I’m sitting in a public setting currently outside a store that is enforcing a mask policy watching people pull cloth masks out of their purses for them and their children and then when they leave placing them back in their purses.

IF these these are collecting/filtering any viral particles people are simply collecting them and placing them amongst their personal artifacts to then encourage the spread...
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32357 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:56 am to
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The masks work. I've seen it first-hand.


Well crap man...publish that paper already.


If they didn't work, wouldn't 100% of healthcare workers be infected by now?
Posted by BobBoucher
Member since Jan 2008
16776 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:01 am to
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The masks work. I've seen it first-hand. Wear masks, reduce rate of infection, open economy, people back to work, Trump victory in November.


I think masks - while probably unconstitutional to mandate - are what’s behind the lower death rates. That and the distancing measures - because they both help limit the amount of virus youre exposed to.

Viral exposure is like any other toxin: the more exposure, the more lethal it can be.
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 10:08 am
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11815 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 10:03 am to
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It is illegal to require masks. This is America, not a dictatorship.


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