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re: Depressing Small Southern Cities

Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:36 pm to
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
36721 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:36 pm to
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Beaumont/Orange


Orange blows but at least Beaumont has the plants. Beaumont is basically lake Charles without the casinos. Not exactly heaven but you can find work there
Posted by El Mattadorr
Member since Mar 2019
2374 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:43 pm to
Meridian, MS fits the bill for me. Godforsaken shithole wasteland of a town.
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5048 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:43 pm to
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one man can now till, plant, and harvest 1000 acres with the right machinery.


This is not even close to being true.
Maybe if your family helps you but you still are going to need 4 or 5 people at certain times of the year

Do farms need less workers per acre now? yes but no one of any size is doing it by themselves and a lot of guys grow their acres but keep same number of employees.

But the biggest problem is local people don't want to work on the farm and would rather collect a check. There are thousands of farm jobs that are filled with H2A workers

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Secondarily, the per acre productivity of land was significantly increased through science and technology meaning that the amount of farmland required to be in production decreased.

The end was you have people who live in isolated pockets around the country without the ability to really compete or get ahead using their only asset; farmland and they cannot really escape either because their family land doesn't really have much value anymore.


You actually think there is valuable farmland just sitting idle around the country? When prices are ok there are rent $ bidding wars between farmers. The value of farmland has skyrocketed in the last 15 years
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65859 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:44 pm to
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The issue is that from 1870 to 1965
Try 1890 to 1920.

In the 1880s, to produce one acre of cotton in the American South took the labor of one human per year.

If you had 20 acres, it took 20 folks to make it happen for you.

By 1920 a single person was needed for every 20 acres of cotton.

Hence Black & White folks leaving the rural South in the millions.

Some went to Southern cities, some went North or West.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67198 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:49 pm to
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This is happening in Europe also. I have read several articles about buying houses in small Spanish and Italian towns for 1 Euro. The only catch is you have to agree to fix them up. Would be perfect for someone who can work remotely.


I would love to do this, especially if I could find a place in southern europe not far from the shore. Fix up the place, live there part time, eventually retire there. Sounds like a fun investment.
Posted by stickly
Asheville, NC
Member since Nov 2012
2338 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:52 pm to
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The value of farmland has skyrocketed in the last 15 years


Open up Realtor.com and look at what was once very valuable farmland around Lumberton, NC or any of the other *remote and newly insignificant* parts of the country. Here are a few examples:

70 acres for $140k

123 acres for$225k

298 acres for $349k

It's a pretty area with good farmland but it is no longer important because it is not on an interstate and the economics of farming have changed so radically that the opportunity to make a living is unappealing.

The flip side of that argument: Imagine if every acre of farmland actually produced food. Corn would be a dollar a bushel so obviously what is happening is organic: Some farms cannot compete so they just go to seed and then get sold as a hunting property since no one in their right mind is going to plant ONLY 20 acres in soybeans because it is very hard to make a living.

How many acres of good farmland are currently growing hay if for no other reason than to get agricultural tax credits? And decent farmland in areas convenient to larger cities is being bought by people with $ as a weekend farm / gentleman's farm. I live just outside of Asheville and Mills River (a small farming community) is gradually being devoured by both big ag companies and people escaping the city to live in the country. God help us when California slides off into the pacific lol.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 2:44 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55516 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 1:56 pm to
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I would love to do this, especially if I could find a place in southern europe not far from the shore. Fix up the place, live there part time, eventually retire there. Sounds like a fun investment.



I think you can get Greek citizenship if you buy a property in excess of 150 or 250k. Lots of nice plots and houses on Crete.
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
11426 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:03 pm to
frick off loser
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118997 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:06 pm to
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Serious question - why are small towns in the south so much more likely to be shitty than small towns in the Midwest or New England?




Have you ever driven between Pittsburgh and East Liverpool OH through WV? The small town shitholes rival the drive through the Mississippi River Delta in Mississippi and you get the added touch of gray and cold AF during the winter.
Posted by TigerBR1111
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
6610 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:08 pm to
The longest decade in my life was the year and a half that I lived in Alexandria Louisiana
Posted by Ghost Hog
Earth
Member since May 2015
451 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
Greenwood, MS

Oof
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118997 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:13 pm to
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Greenwood, MS

Oof



That entire region between Vicksburg and Memphis is, oof.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
16632 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:13 pm to
You obviously don't have a clue.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10635 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:14 pm to
Cheneyville and Bunkie,LA
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
140462 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:16 pm to
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With a thriving metropolis just next door in Huntsville
Posted by TigerNOLAGirl
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
719 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:16 pm to
Do this for every single local state & federal politician. The whole family/friends network. The sweet business deals, the abortions paid for, arrest records, bribes, insider trading, tax evasion, dwi. Everything exposed.
Why do we still believe politicians should be spared the full consequences of their actions?
Problem is they protect each other to the death. And they quit caring about morals & integrity a very long time ago.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48751 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:17 pm to
Athens isn't that bad. My wife has some family in Walker County and some of those towns are downright depressing.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55516 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Athens isn't that bad. My wife has some family in Walker County and some of those towns are downright depressing.



Lauderdale-Limestone-Madison-Morgan aren't too bad. Marshall is hit or miss (Guntersville is awesome). Colbert, Lawrence, Walker, Winston, Cullman, et. al are mostly pretty depressing.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20084 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:21 pm to
Your post is depressing enough!
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20084 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 2:23 pm to
Explore Bessemer, Alabama and proceed to be mugged and/or killed. You are welcome!
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