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re: Kaylee Hartung describes her experience with Covid-19
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:53 am to idlewatcher
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:53 am to idlewatcher
It’s really messed up that boomers shut down our bars and gyms over a disease that only affects them
Millennials don’t even really catch the corona. Boomers think the world revolves around them
Millennials don’t even really catch the corona. Boomers think the world revolves around them
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 10:54 am
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
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let’s kill granny and your neighbor recovering from cancer
What if they died from cancer anyway, but contracted a mild form of the coronavirus? Will coronavirus be listed as the thing that killed them?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:53 am to cahoots
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Just playing devil's advocate but if a lot of people die, our economy is also fricked. Italy is fricked
Italy's national health authority just published a study showing 99% of their deaths were patients who had other illnesses at the time.
Almost half had at least 3 prior illnesses.
Almost all of the deaths were aged 70-90.
Losing those people is sad. It is most definitely not why their economy is fricked.
Bloomberg posted that article this morning if you want to read it.
So 2% have died and 99% of those were elderly with prior illnesses.
So we have a virus that in the worst case country so far kills .02% of healthy non-elderly victims.
We would be better off absorbing the blow to the hospital system.
Bloomberg link
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 11:09 am
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:55 am to uway
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This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:56 am to More beer please
quote:Colds are worse for me because of the nasal drip and pressure causing headaches. I hate a runny nose.
Most people have said it’s the bitch version of a cold
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:56 am to NIH
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If we can keep this thing under 200 deaths I’m grateful for everything our benevolent government is doing
Here here, comrade. Think of the hundreds of thousands of bankruptcies and lost jobs and hurt families simply as a means of breaking the fever. The Leviathan shall keep us safe. The nationwide quarantine will save us all!!!
Posted on 3/18/20 at 10:58 am to cahoots
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Well, neither of us has a crystal ball. But their hospitals are overrun and infections are spreading rapidly. This is just the beginning. The virus has up to a two week incubation period
Statistics are statistics. The virus can't be expected to kill a different sort of person than it's killed so far.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:00 am to The Boat
The dirty things I would do to her. I would risk getting the virus
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 11:00 am
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:10 am to el Gaucho
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It’s really messed up that boomers shut down our bars and gyms over a disease that only affects them
Millennials don’t even really catch the corona. Boomers think the world revolves around them
You joke, but this really is a case of putting Boomers in front of everything else.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:15 am to The Boat
The coach of the soccer team I follow tested positive, they started cancelling games then the whole league. 2 days later he was talking about it and how he felt much better and was fine.
They don't spread enough of these stories about how it's not killing people. Or that you are more likely to be much more sick from something else in the coming year.
They don't spread enough of these stories about how it's not killing people. Or that you are more likely to be much more sick from something else in the coming year.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:15 am to uway
You should post that in the stickied thread
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:18 am to stout
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the serious question is why can't those people self-quarantine
- b/c too many people think this won't affect them and that includes many of the population over 60.
- Testing is still not at a point where younger people can determine whether or not they are actually infected especially with mild or no symptoms.
- those over 60 can be self quarantined, but who is going to take care of them? the answer is a younger group that will inadvertently infect the shite out of them b/c the younger folks will have a higher rate of infections from interacting like they normally do.
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instead of us mortgaging the entire future of the country?
the measures aren't something I'm taking lightly and this will affect many people's lives no matter what, but you're being a little dramatic.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:19 am to Norbert
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I truly feel like you people are intentionally dense.
People are losing their businesses and jobs and you refuse to accept it. Who is dense?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:20 am to RobbBobb
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What if they died from cancer anyway, but contracted a mild form of the coronavirus? Will coronavirus be listed as the thing that killed them?
I've wondered about this. If some of these old folks in WA died of a stroke, but had Covid19, are they thrown into the Covid19 statistics?
Or one of the guys that was under 60 and died had pneumonia before Covid19. Was it the pneumonia that had already weakend him causing the death? And how do you throw it on one or the other?
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:26 am to musick
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How bout the thousands of people dying from it?
I feel for these people, I really do. But we're sending the economy of 350 million into a $2 trillion tailspin over 1,000 people?
I'm not pretending I have the answer...but I don't think this was the way to handle it.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:27 am to Oates Mustache
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Calm down, Cup guy. It'll be okay just breathe.
Breathing is how you catch coronavirus, you fool.
Posted on 3/18/20 at 11:30 am to OceanMan
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People are losing their businesses and jobs and you refuse to accept it. Who is dense?
Well, many of us are in the same boat. It indeed sucks.
But to downplay this as just some media-driven overreaction to a cold is either intentionally dense or wildly naive.
I could post links from numerous respected medical associations and hospitals. I could post CDC, WHO, NIH, etc. recommendations that are totally uninfluenced by the mainstream media. I could post quotes from doctors actually on the front lines (a few dying) who are running out of equipment and are legitimately worried about an impending spike in cases.
But none of it matters. Because some people just don't want to believe it. They are frustrated with their hopefully short-term economic pain and simply can't see anything else.
ETA Spare me your own personal interpretation of the statistics as if none of these people or respected organizations and institutions could possibly be having the same thoughts you are and still feel that social distancing is necessary.
This post was edited on 3/18/20 at 11:32 am
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