re: The Keto diet can’t possibly be good for you

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That’s literally dipping cheese in cheese.

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Cheese has no carbs. "Low fat" diets are an invention of the government from the 1950s back when they also used the term Mongoloid was a official medical term and cigarettes were good for you.

I think the carnivore diet sounds like fun. Steak dinner every meal

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They may be your weakness, but your issue is lack of protein intake atleast for health and looks

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I'm super healthy, 5'11" 157-168# and I don't take any medications and last time I had blood work done everything came back good. I just shid a lot and can't figure out why. I'm actually on the shitter right now.

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Judging by your diet, it's no wonder you think my diet is crazy $$. I used to eat filets almost every night, but have gotten off of that lately. I don't waste good and we only go to dinner now once a week at most. My diet is cheap compared to many.

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Yeah. We're really cheap grocery shoppers. We buy organic, which is more expensive but we penny pinch in how we buy, where we buy and what we buy. We shop at three different stores for different things because of price and we try to buy in bulk and we always look at price per ounce.

How much is your monthly grocery bill and for how many people?

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Why do you not eat meat?

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Again, because it's fricking expensive. I love meat, specially pig and fish but meat in general is very expensive especially organic meat which is the only thing we would touch unless we're eating out or at someone else's house.

If I can get my boat squared away I can start pulling seafood myself and I'd like to get into hunting. We've talked about putting our name on a cow or two at a ranch but we haven't done the numbers on it yet. We're going to do chickens eventually because we have room for that at our own property and that would save us a lot on our grocery bill.

ETA: never mind. Just saw your other post.

$800 for a family of 6 is actually pretty damn good with the diet you described. We're at anywhere from $400 to $600 a month for a family of four. Two kids under five and two adults. But if I was to eat like you ours would probably be $800 or more a month because we only eat organic at home.

Someone said butter?

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Hundreds of years ago, humans expended a lot of energy hunting, farming, etc to put food on the table.

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Not just that, but the food we ate was all natural with basic spices added to it for taste.

Now, you have all the processed shite (stuff you buy in boxes and/or in the middle of the grocery store) that has tons of added sugar, high fructose corn syrup, sodium, etc. All to make it taste good. But that's where people get fat.

That's why it's always said that if you truly want to eat healthier, buy stuff that's on the edges of the store (vegetables, meat, seafood, poultry, dairy products, eggs, etc.) and stay out the middle.

Bottomline, is you have to keep it realistic. You can't set yourself up on some crazy arse diet and expect to do that for the rest of your life. You have to make a lifestyle change, and look at it as a food eating plan change. People get bogged down in the word "diet" itself, and immediately draw negative connection to it because it symbolizes "oh shite I can't enjoy food anymore". Don't look at it that way. Look at it as a diet simply being a food plan, and not a death sentence.

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. We buy organic, which is more expensive

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Why?

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. I love meat, specially pig and fish but meat in general is very expensive especially organic meat which is the only thing we would touch unless we're eating out or at someone else's house.

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Again why?

Exactly...why? Organic is a fricking scam. If you want to eat healthier, plant a garden. But organic vs non organic..... essentially the same macro and micro nutrition.

Grass fed and free range meat I get, same with free range eggs and grass fed cheese, Wild fish etc. I get it because be it actually does change the profiles of the macros and micros.

Agreed about the processed crap, it's why people do so well on restriction diets liek the whole 30, they find out about food sensitivities.

The future is blood work and other details that show sensitivities to certain foods, which foods you genetics work best with etc as mentioned in page 11

That’s not the smart version of keto

He needs to eat salmon avocados grass fed beef cage free chicken wild caught fish etc

Butter is good in moderation

Plus leafy green vegetables such as kale turnip greens romaine lettuce spinach cabbage Brussels sprouts

Keto works because eliminating most sources of carbs and then eating the foods you're forced to replace them with results in lower calories. I've been around a lot of people that completely fail at keto. You still have to eat reasonably. Any other minor weight loss benefit that is gained from keto is simply not worth it for the average American to attempt it. It's just too drastic of a dietary change for most people to stick with. When it comes to weight loss, it's not about what is best, it's about making a lifestyle change that you are willing to accept and continue forever.

If the average american changed nothing in their diet other than replacing a single meal per day with a chicken breast and vegetables, they would lose 10%+ of their body weight in 2-3 months.

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If you aren’t buying from a local, reputable farm, you’re likely paying 30% more for a fancy sticker. Many organic farmers are frauds (especially on imported produce), organic traders are even worse

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Don't doubt you're right, at all. It's always been a concern of mine. Always joke with my wife that it's probably bullshite but it's better than nothing. I'd rather buy one with the label that might be worth something than one without a label that means they could have grown it anyway they wanted.