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re: Is Skylar from Breaking Bad the biggest douche in a TV series?

Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:53 am to
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 12:53 am to
I just mean't their relationship as a storyline...not the other storylines.
Posted by PeteRose
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:02 am to
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Walter wasnt a good man, but you enjoyed him because of his performance, combined with the writing and cinematic production of Breaking bad.


Walt is a good guy/villain combo with Walt/Heisenberg. But More villain than hero. However, I’m not interested in “oh, he’s a bad person have to root against him”. I watch him because he’s good at the game. He’s competent and sometimes ruthless. And most of his battles, he’s an underdog. A lot of times I think “how’s hes getting out of this”. And then he does talking risks and playing chess, manipulating characters.

Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:30 am to
Skylar for most of the show.Junior towards the end.
frick your family, Walt.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:31 am to
Walt had the chance to get cancer treatment and set his family up legally had he just swallowed his pride and taken the job at Gray Matter. Instead he decided to cook meth, murder people, and ruin his entire family's lives. As overbearing has she could be in the end Skyler was right to consonantly be pissed at and not trust him.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:35 am to
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Walt is a good guy/villain combo with Walt/Heisenberg.


That's the thing..and I hate to reference this..but at the end of the dark knight, when the joker talks about sanity and how it just takes a little "push".

The cancer was his push, to me the fire that was later named heisenberg was always lit, but became a wildfire. From what we know of him, he may always have been a schemer to get what he wanted.

I think he left Gretchen for Skylar, who was younger and prettier. Using the crossword puzzles he noticed as his icebreaker. He even drove a Porsche around that time, in a deleted scene. I often wondered if he regretted/resented Skylar in ways for that..but I dont see it. I think Walter really cared about her.

It's also hard to say..would he have been better at the game had he not been a legit lunatic? That's what got him there..but, 1 and a half year run compared to Gus' 20+ run,..i guess it goes back to his chemistry lessons on how rapid reactions can cause otherwise harmless substances to explode.


Beautiful frickin show.
Posted by SEClint
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Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 1:42 am to
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Walt had the chance to get cancer treatment and set his family up legally had he just swallowed his pride and taken the job at Gray Matter.


That's like if Metallica would have come to Dave Mustaine, and offered him a job as a roadie.

Posted by bcoop199
Kansas City, MISSOURI
Member since Nov 2013
6689 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 4:06 am to
Don't forget not only did she frick Ted, she gave him $600k of Walt's money that he was risking his life for.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 5:53 am to
Tony sopranos mom and sister are way worse
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 6:02 am to
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Is Skylar from Breaking Bad the biggest douche in a TV series?


Gemma Teller was way worse, IMO.
Posted by LanierSpots
Sarasota, Florida
Member since Sep 2010
61842 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 6:03 am to
I never understood the hate for her. A little? Yes. But not a high level


Posted by Saintsisit
Member since Jan 2013
3950 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 6:31 am to
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The fact Walter has to fight drug lords, his family at home and his brother-in-law makes the show. 



Add to that fighting Cancer in the middle of all that.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:37 am to
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I never understood the hate for her. A little? Yes. But not a high level

im with you. Jill Taylor is way worse than Skylar. My biggest issue is that dumb fricking name.....”Skylar”.
Posted by metallica81788
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Member since Sep 2008
8604 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:41 am to
One of my biggest issues with her (besides those already mentioned) is that every step along the way, Walt presented her with options. Did he make mistakes - of course he did and she had a right to be upset with him at many points. But she flat out rejected all of the options Walt had to improve the family, hide the money, etc, and often made worse decisions on her own when given the opportunity (hence Ted).
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:41 am to
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WaydownSouth


I really hate you for this thread. I'm doing a rewatch currently and have the polar opposite opinion of you and had on my to-do list for today to make a thread wiht reasons why the skylar hate is way unwarranted.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
58173 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 7:45 am to
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Message Is Skylar from Breaking Bad the biggest douche in a TV series?


No
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
35936 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:19 am to
Jill. Taylor.
Posted by HeLeakin
Member since May 2014
3316 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:24 am to
Arthur's wife from The Last Kingdom out-counts Skylar.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20465 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:30 am to
I hated her with a passion, and her sister, too. Even if he wasn't cooking meth and trying to live out his last days the best he can, I would still think she was a bitch.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19566 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:30 am to

Been a while since I watched the series, but from memory she worked the car wash franchise for a while, knowing that Walt was into something really shady, and seems like she was ok with that for a while.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29419 posts
Posted on 6/10/19 at 8:41 am to
I was watching a few old HI episodes on Hulu and holy hell I never noticed how much Jill bitches at Tim. Constantly. Half of Tim’s shenanigans that he ends up having to apologize to Jill for don’t affect her even slightly.
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