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re: Mid City hipsters thought they could stop Jesuit from building a "bridge"
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:50 pm to RedPop4
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:50 pm to RedPop4
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(It is painfully ironic to consider how this private school project flies along with such speed, while public school children in our community continue to be neglected. I could cite safety issues at Jesuit’s next-door neighbor, Esperanza, or the pitiful state of the rickety Lopez Street Bridge which Warren Easton students used for years to get to their practice field. I have to wonder, what are our priorities?)
Why is he conflating two separate issues, the expenditure of public monies and the expenditure of private funds. It is not at all shocking that the public process is less efficient than the public one. Dude is an idiot of the highest order.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:50 pm to tgrbaitn08
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he and his hipster followers don't pay property taxes in Orleans parish
If they rent and it isn't section 8 they sure do.
I hate hipsters and feel these folks are misguided fools.
But, your statement is likely false.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:51 pm to Captain Crackysack
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Meanwhile neighbors were starting to get organized. All our activity is volunteer work, cobbled together in what is laughingly called our “free time.” This has represented a significant sacrifice for some of us, but we do it because we love our neighborhood.
This is when I stopped reading and just started hating this asshat. Clearly you have a lot of free time....but your gonna make it seem like your sacrificing everything to participate in the revolution
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:53 pm to Peazey
There’s no light there. The spot in question is where Will Clark field and the school buildings meet. It’s not going over Carrollton, it’s going over Banks for when kids are walking to the gym for PE, practice, etc.
This post was edited on 5/8/19 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:56 pm to NYCAuburn
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I would think pedestrian safety is a priority. lots of schools do this
I live near Jesuit and for years the kids have had to cross Banks St. to get from the gym back to classes in the school. This means they had crossing guards working all day during school hours and when the group of students had to cross Banks, they'd block traffic so they could safely cross.
From what I can tell, the underside of the elevated walkway will be at least 15 or more feet off the ground, so that will not impede any form of traffic, even the 18 wheelers and large delivery trucks that sometimes go down Banks to get to commercial enterprises in the neighborhood.
It is ultimately for the safety of the students and I for one have absolutely no issue with it.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:57 pm to scott8811
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This is when I stopped reading and just started hating this asshat. Clearly you have a lot of free time....but your gonna make it seem like your sacrificing everything to participate in the revolution
Meh. he phrased it pretty self importantly but the mid city neighborhood organization folks tend to be good people that do show up to quite a bit and work hard for the area. There are quite a few pains with a lot of free time that sometimes do need the reminder that most folks have jobs and families and are just trying to do good for themselves and their neighbors.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 4:59 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Although, I'm confused as to why they need a bridge.
I thought fairies could fly...
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Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:03 pm to PrimeTime Money
PrimeTimeMoney, when were you there? I graduated in ‘99.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:05 pm to Captain Crackysack
The only reason that anyone should be opposed to this is if Jesuit hired the same people that designed and built the FIU elevated walkway.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:08 pm to Napoleon
The Xavier bridge is finally being used since they removed the bridge over the canal.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:09 pm to Captain Crackysack
This is less about the walkway itself, and more about the process. The neighbors haven't filed suit yet (I see that coming), they are using their legal right to challenge an interpretation of a City regulation by a single city public official. Their appeal is actually a "check and balance" on the powers of the state, which is good.
There is also another issue, a public entity can't give away a good/property without due process and fair compensation. In this case the public good is the ability to build on/over the city ROW. While that is nuanced again this is a good thing. While I'm neutral on the bridge, the City and Jesuit should make sure they follow rules, most of which are in place for a reason.
There is also another issue, a public entity can't give away a good/property without due process and fair compensation. In this case the public good is the ability to build on/over the city ROW. While that is nuanced again this is a good thing. While I'm neutral on the bridge, the City and Jesuit should make sure they follow rules, most of which are in place for a reason.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:10 pm to Tulane_STEM_ALUM
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If they rent and it isn't section 8 they sure do.
I hate hipsters and feel these folks are misguided fools.
But, your statement is likely false.
Sounds like something a renter that doesn’t pay property taxes would say
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:12 pm to xiv
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Automatically siding against Jesuit because of your lazy hacky use of “hipster” and “Prius.”
Found the hipster.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:20 pm to NoSaint
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Because that’s not the process for neighborhood participation programs. Anyone can attend and give feedback.
Is this something done to get feedback or concerns from effected neighborhood for specific issues within neighborhood, or is it a general meeting for city that just happened to have had this zoning issue discussed (particularly the 2nd meeting the school had which is what I had quoted from article)?
If city wants opinion or ideas from a neighborhood in regards to something affecting a specific neighborhood meetings should just include people in neighborhood. Otherwise meetings can get dominated by people with interests that might not reflect neighborhood as a whole.
If this is a way the city govt tries to touch base with neighborhoods across the city and discuss multiple issues and overall issues with city it makes more sense to not care if they are from neighborhood where meeting is held (meaning it’s more of a outreach program for city govt to discuss city in general and not a meeting to discuss a neighborhood specific zoning issue affecting those specific neighbors).
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:27 pm to fightin tigers
If they are worried about students getting run-over, maybe they should ask the city to drop the speed limit to 10 mph from 6:45 am to 8:45 am; and 1:45 PM to 4:45 PM then cover the area up with photo-ticket cameras.
Everybody wins. City, school, tree-huggers. It's a win-win-win.
Everybody wins. City, school, tree-huggers. It's a win-win-win.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:37 pm to keks tadpole
There is a school zone camera on Carrollton Avenue in front of Esperanza and Jesuit as well as a red light camera on the corner.
I get the idea about campus security, my old grade school and former employer completely closes the street from 7 am to 7 pm, with full, padlocked gates. The less students are exposed to "public" and traffic the better for security and insurance.
But hey, fight the power
I get the idea about campus security, my old grade school and former employer completely closes the street from 7 am to 7 pm, with full, padlocked gates. The less students are exposed to "public" and traffic the better for security and insurance.
But hey, fight the power
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:40 pm to Tulane_STEM_ALUM
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If they rent and it isn't section 8 they sure do. I hate hipsters and feel these folks are misguided fools. But, your statement is likely false.
Why? Are the renters legally on the hook for the annual property taxes each year in Orleans Parrish? If taxes go up during year (which in my area at least can happen with property assessments in late spring and then again with rate increases up through fall of the tax year) are they legally required to pay the increased taxes for prior months before final tax assessed each year?
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:53 pm to dallastigers
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Are the renters legally on the hook for the annual property taxes each year in Orleans Parrish?
No
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If taxes go up during year (which in my area at least can happen with property assessments in late spring and then again with rate increases up through fall of the tax year) are they legally required to pay the increased taxes for prior months before final tax assessed each year?
No
Because renters don’t pay property taxes nor do the pay homeowners or flood insurance.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 5:58 pm to Captain Crackysack
There's nothing more dirty, nasty, and disgusting than a hipster.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 6:03 pm to dallastigers
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Is this something done to get feedback or concerns from effected neighborhood for specific issues within neighborhood, or is it a general meeting for city that just happened to have had this zoning issue discussed (particularly the 2nd meeting the school had which is what I had quoted from article)? If city wants opinion or ideas from a neighborhood in regards to something affecting a specific neighborhood meetings should just include people in neighborhood. Otherwise meetings can get dominated by people with interests that might not reflect neighborhood as a whole. If this is a way the city govt tries to touch base with neighborhoods across the city and discuss multiple issues and overall issues with city it makes more sense to not care if they are from neighborhood where meeting is held (meaning it’s more of a outreach program for city govt to discuss city in general and not a meeting to discuss a neighborhood specific zoning issue affecting those specific neighbors).
I haven’t followed this issue particularly closely but the bar napkin math answer...
When looking for a zoning variance or conditional use permit the city requires you to host a neighborhood participation program that comes with a variety of requirements (notices to all neighbors within a certain radius, accessible time and location, etc...). These are open to everybody, not just immediate neighbors. You collect comments and feedback, and supply it to the BZA, council, etc that are hearing the request. They weigh the code and commentary and either approve or deny.
From what I understand (may be wrong) the first meeting flopped and either had enough negative feedback or missed a requirement so they had to host a second. Kicking people out for lack of ID wouldn’t really fly at one of these.
Then, simply by changing the word bridge to walkway on the paperwork they no longer have to collect neighborhood feedback and are good to go with no variance, no review, etc...
I don’t have any particular opinion on this project but would comfortably take the stance that some council should be reviewing structures going above a public right of way and out of character for the area, and that our codes should be generally clear and consistently enforced. I don’t think NOLA has accomplished those items particularly well here.
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