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Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:14 am to Nguyener
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He could've just had Drogon drop him off. You know. A giant flying dragon he inexplicably ran away from instead of climbing on.
well he rides Rhaegal and Rhaegal had crash landed and was clearly injured
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:14 am to Mystery
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The prophecies are in the show as well. Not as heavy but in the show a number of times.
they are, yes
and they are mostly from Mel, who, in the books and in the show, has been proven to have been wrong multiple times
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:14 am to Nguyener
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He got fat and lazy and saw his chance at millions so he sold his intellectual property and life's work before it was finished to Hollywood and let them finish his story for him
This pretty well sums it up. We can all go home now.
GRRM has had a bad tendency to jump into a new series, get things going really well, and then get bored with it and get the itch write something new. You can only describe feasts and rape so many times in a fantasy setting before you get the urge to write about them in, say, a science fiction setting.
I think he's at the point where he sees finishing the books as a burden right now.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:17 am to Salmon
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they are, yes
and they are mostly from Mel, who, in the books and in the show, has been proven to have been wrong multiple times
Being wrong about who the prince is is not the same as having all of it mean nothing. Otherwise it is just pointless bad storytelling.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:19 am to Mystery
Exactly. Being wrong about Stannis isn’t a big deal and in fact only added to the drama and mystery. The prophecy being bunk entirely just means we wasted a bunch of time on something that never mattered.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:19 am to Mystery
Basically D&D receive points from the Hollywood club for their feminist moment.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:20 am to Mystery
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Unfortunately Arya does not fit with any of the foreshadowing.
People have noted that this episode seems to have caused a divide between Hodors and Maesters and I think it's over this issue. The prophecies and foreshadowing seem to play a central role in the books and have been overanalyzed to death. In the show they just haven't stood out. Book readers feel like they'be been bait and switched while us Hodors are able to just enjoy it for what it is because we didn't have the preconceived notion of what it should be.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:21 am to Mystery
Good shock:
Ned loses his head. No one expected it but it was totally in line with Joffreys character.
Bad shock:
Arya sneaks into the Godswood after not being able to sneak out of the library. And kills the NK simply because D&D thought it would be unexpected. No other reason. They admitted to this.
And people defend this?
Ned loses his head. No one expected it but it was totally in line with Joffreys character.
Bad shock:
Arya sneaks into the Godswood after not being able to sneak out of the library. And kills the NK simply because D&D thought it would be unexpected. No other reason. They admitted to this.
And people defend this?
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:21 am to Mystery
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well, [the villain] couldn't have been that bad when some 100-pound girl comes in and stabs him.'"
At least shes self aware. But it wasnt that bad, it wasnt bad at all.
Granted D&D havent provided a legit GoT reason why they chose this path.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:21 am to TigerinATL
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David: Even for Arya, she can't take on a whole horde of wights by herself especially when her head gets smacked, she's no longer at 100%. It's just about survival at that point.
So Arya is able to take out the Night King when she’s at about 75 percent? Nice.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 8:22 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:22 am to Adam Banks
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would say being trained for 7 seasons to be a killing machine is “grown out of a character”
I think this board plays up Arya's training way too much. It consisted of going blind due to disobedience, her taking beatings from the Waif (although she did gradually get better at staff fighting) and failing 2 assassination missions. It concluded in a stereotypical chase scene that even the actress herself had to ask them to tone done.
In other words, these massive power gains were off-screen.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:22 am to Mystery
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Being wrong about who the prince is is not the same as having all of it mean nothing. Otherwise it is just pointless bad storytelling
well we don't know if it means nothing yet
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:23 am to tiggerthetooth
I don't have a problem with Arya doing important things, but it needs to fit her character. Arya's storyline as always been revenge driven and centered in the south. She should have been after Cersie. Can she still do that? Yeah, but if it happens then it just becomes the Arya show.
This whole season is a mess. The throne conflict should have been resolved first with the series ending with Jon (Azor Ahai) finishing off the NK. We should have seen snow falling in King's Landing.
This whole season is a mess. The throne conflict should have been resolved first with the series ending with Jon (Azor Ahai) finishing off the NK. We should have seen snow falling in King's Landing.
This post was edited on 4/30/19 at 8:24 am
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:24 am to Ssubba
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The throne conflict should have been resolved first with the series ending with Jon (Azor Ahai) finishing off the NK.
strongly disagree
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:24 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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“I love this show, they never do what you think they’re gonna do”
Much later
“frick this show, they didn’t do what they were supposed to”
This was the funniest thing about the last thread. People were bitching about them NOT doing what they expected.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:26 am to volod
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In other words, these massive power gains were off-screen.
Similarly to Sansa’s massive intellectual gains. It’s like the Stark kids all just powered up.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:27 am to Ssubba
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Arya doing important things, but it needs to fit her character. Arya's storyline as always been revenge driven and centered in the south. She should have been after Cersie.
Do you even watch the show? She’s grown up over 7 years. This is most symbolized by when she leaves the freys I think it was she had a choice to go south or return to winterfell to on an outside shot reunite and she went to winterfell. She also hasn’t mentioned her list in several seasons. She’s worried about the present now. Not foolish personal vendettas
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:28 am to Mystery
You know that D&D we’re trying to oversell it by constantly using the word “fun”.
Posted on 4/30/19 at 8:32 am to Aubie Spr96
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This was the funniest thing about the last thread. People were bitching about them NOT doing what they expected
Sigh....
A main character dying is unexpected because we have been shown for years that just does not happen in television. If you did not have that built in perception something like Ned dying would not have been unexpected. And it was there in the story.
Arya coming out of nowhere to surprise anybody invested into the lore was unexpected as well.
You can't tell the difference in that?
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