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Honest Bob pursues new Trump-Russia collusion leads despite talk of probe winding down

Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:04 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147321 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:04 am


Special counsel Robert Mueller has been pursuing several Russia collusion leads even as a number of media outlets say his final report is due soon, according to court filings and sources.

Former acting Attorney General Matthew G. Whitaker said in January that he had been read-in on the nearly two-year probe and concluded it was “close to being completed.”

But there are signs that Russia issues remain:

• Court filings in the prosecution of former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort show that Mr. Mueller is still investigating a fall 2016 meeting at a Manhattan cigar bar where the lifting of U.S. sanctions on Russia was discussed.

• Mr. Mueller still has questions about the Ukraine amendment to the 2016 Republican Party platform.

• The indictment of Trump political adviser Roger Stone for allegedly lying to Congress sets up the possibility of a plea bargain. Mr. Stone has denied wrongdoing and has said he will never betray President Trump. But he has added that he is willing to cooperate.

On Manafort, a closed hearing for which a sanitized transcript was released showed Mueller senior prosecutor Andrew Weissmann is still probing the August 2016 meeting between Manafort, his ex-business partner Rick Gates and Ukraine-born Constantine Kilimnik. Mr. Kilimnik, a former low-ranking translator for Russian military intelligence, was a Manafort translator and office manager in Ukraine for a decade.

Gates has turned state’s evidence. The transcript indicates he has made a new allegation against Manafort dealing with sanctions relief that could in some way be tied to a conspiracy.

washingtontimes.com
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79354 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:06 am to
Honestly, Honest Bob must be pretty bad at his job.

Two years later and he sent a couple of baws to jail for 30 days and Manafort in for eternity - completely unrelated to GEOTUS

What a charade this is.
Posted by Righteous Dude
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:06 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
74272 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:07 am to
quote:

2016 meeting at a Manhattan cigar bar where the lifting of U.S. sanctions on Russia was discussed.


Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
8323 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:07 am to
meeting at a cigar bar


you cant make this shite up
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:08 am to
Barr is feckless for not shutting this shite down

It's a disgrace to this country
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119028 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:09 am to
quote:

Russia


quote:

Ukraine


Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147321 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:09 am to
Yep and NT74 is still following Honest Bob around. I am hoping this is fake news, that the bad spooks got tired of dropping fake crap to WaPo and the NYTimes. But I think Bunyan and I got it right last week. This is not ending until they get Trump three ways from Sunday.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54230 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:11 am to
Mueller can still shut down the collusion investigation since there is no proof. He can turn around and still have his investigations of other improprieties can he not?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147321 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Russia



Ukraine


I know...right. This stuff is pure stupidity. Of course the release of sanctions was discussed with the dude the democrats had over for tea. As I am sure was with the HRC team as normal because she was guarandamnteed a win. You can bet their was talks of President soon to be elect on both sides...



Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:17 am to
Posted by Kickadawgitfeelsgood
Lafayette LA
Member since Nov 2005
14089 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:21 am to
Who would have thought a defamation case in Florida would have such an impact.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53502 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:21 am to
I hate it when Journalists don't do their job... example here... the Ukraine "softening"


Byron York, at the Washington Examiner:

quote:

Missing from all the talk is what the Republican platform actually said before it was allegedly “gutted” by Trump. What did the original draft of the platform say about Russia and Ukraine? Was it, in fact, changed? If so, how?

As it turns out, a look at the original draft of the platform — which has never been released publicly — shows that it always had tough language on Russian aggression in Ukraine. And not only did that language stay in the final platform — nothing was taken out — it was actually strengthened, not weakened, as a result of events at the convention.



Here are the words... page 41 if you want to pull up the GOP platform...

quote:

In the international arena, a weak Administration has invited aggression. The results of the Administration’s unilateral approach to disarmament are already clear: An emboldened China in the South China Sea, a resurgent Russia occupying parts of Ukraine and threatening neighbors from the Baltic to the Caucasus, and an aggressive Islamist terror network in the Middle East. We support maintaining and, if warranted, increasing sanctions, together with our allies, against Russia unless and until Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity are fully restored. We also support providing appropriate assistance to the armed forces of Ukraine and greater coordination with NATO defense planning.

All our adversaries heard the message in the Administration’s cutbacks: America is weaker and retreating. … For the people of Russia, we affirm our respect and our determination to maintain a friendship beyond the reach of those who wish to divide us. We have common imperatives: Ending terrorism, combating nuclear proliferation, promoting trade, and more. We also have a common problem: The continuing erosion of personal liberty and fundamental rights under the current officials in the Kremlin. Repressive at home and reckless abroad, their policies imperil the nations which regained their self-determination upon the collapse of the Soviet Union. We will meet the return of Russian belligerence with the same resolve that led to the collapse of the Soviet Union. We will not accept any territorial change in Eastern Europe imposed by force, in Ukraine, Georgia, or elsewhere, and will use all appropriate constitutional measures to bring to justice the practitioners of aggression and assassination.


LINK



Last... Washington times has no idea if that has been tackled by Mueller





Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30468 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:24 am to
He was told To drag it out for two reasons.


1. Prog scum think it will hurt trump 2020
2. The statute of limitation for Hillary and other prog filth will need to expire.



ETA. Three reasons.
3. Delays Huber and Horowitz too.
This post was edited on 3/18/19 at 10:27 am
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
24028 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:36 am to
The probe will not end until Trump is out of office.

I don't know how many times people have to say this.

Mueller's job is to investigate Trump until he leaves office.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
147321 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 10:36 am to
I just read the entire long article

quote:

Defense attorney Kevin Downing called Mr. Weissmann’s theory “nonsense because no matter who gets elected, that the sanctions were going to continue against Russia. I think you need to consider this rank speculation.”

A Manafort supporter told The Washington Times, “There is no evidence of collusion.”

Manafort was sentenced on March 8 to just shy of four years in prison for tax and bank by fraud by U.S. District Judge T.S. Ellis III in Virginia.

Judge Jackson tacked on an additional 43 months at a March 13 hearing in Washington, D.C., for lobbying violations and witness tampering.

Judge Jackson, an Obama appointee, scolded Mr. Downing for saying there is no evidence of Manafort-Russia collusion. She said the Mueller investigation continues.

In a court filing, Mr. Downing said: “The Special Counsel’s strategy in bringing charges against Mr. Manafort had nothing to do with the Special Counsel’s core mandate — Russian collusion — but was instead designed to ‘tighten the screws’ in an effort to compel Mr. Manafort to cooperate and provide incriminating information about others.”

On the Ukraine question, Mr. Mueller still hasn’t closed his inquiry even though Republicans believe they have debunked the tale.

The charge is that while the Republican platform was being written at the Cleveland convention, Trump operatives took out language that would have encouraged lethal aid to Ukrainian forces fighting Russia-backed separatists.

In reality, a single delegate offered the lethal aid amendment for inclusion. It was never in the platform. Trump people, not wanting to commit a new administration to arming Ukraine, reached a compromise. The new language pledged support to the Ukrainian military.

The Republican majority of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence reviewed the various platform drafts and concluded the final product was stronger, not weaker, on Ukraine.
They are slinging crap hoping something sticks. It is pathetic.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48494 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:35 am to
I would be very surprised if Mueller shuts down his Op anytime soon, because I have always believed that his objective is to keep going until he can influence the 2020 election against Trump.

IMHO, Mueller won't quit until he can do that, whenever that might be, maybe not even into Trump's second term as POTUS.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:40 am to
I thought his report came out 2 weeks ago
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112605 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:40 am to
quote:

despite talk of probe winding down


The 'winding down' headline has been on for over 6 months. As I said a long time ago 'I'll believe it when I see it.'
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11815 posts
Posted on 3/18/19 at 11:42 am to
This whole thing has gotten so absurd that the insane Q-esque theory of Mueller secretly working with Trump is starting to look like it has validity.
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