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re: USA Today: Girl with inoperable brain tumor healed by prayer. Doctor’s baffled
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:25 pm to 225bred
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:25 pm to 225bred
Either God cannot prevent bad things from happening, which means he's not omnipotent.
Or
He can prevent bad things from happening and chooses not to, which makes him indifferent at best, and a sadist at worst.
Or
He can prevent bad things from happening and chooses not to, which makes him indifferent at best, and a sadist at worst.
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Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:27 pm to theunknownknight
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Girl with inoperable brain tumor healed by prayer
Why even go to the hospital in the first place?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:28 pm to Jim Rockford
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Either God cannot prevent bad things from happening, which means he's not omnipotent.
Or
He can prevent bad things from happening and chooses not to, which makes him indifferent at best, and a sadist at worst.
If that's what you have to tell yourself to try to fathom Him, then more power to you.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:31 pm to Jim Rockford
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Either God cannot prevent bad things from happening, which means he's not omnipotent.
Or
He can prevent bad things from happening and chooses not to, which makes him indifferent at best, and a sadist at worst.
Spare 5 minutes to watch this video.
It's at least thought provoking.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:42 pm to theunknownknight
Well boys, time to pack it up. No need to study medicine or science, we got the power of positive thought and prayer on our side now.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:51 pm to theunknownknight
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Jesus is tGOAT
It had more to do with the belief of the people praying for her to be healed than it did with Jesus.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:53 pm to theunknownknight
And when it comes back it's that Jesus and his daddy's fault right
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:54 pm to theunknownknight
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Harrod said the now 11-year-old went through weeks of radiation
Yeah let's just ignore the actual treatment she was getting and give credit to Jesus deciding she should live b/c some of her neighbors might have prayed. He would have totally let her die otherwise b/c he's a hard arse like that.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:55 pm to theunknownknight
I have a story like this from the 70’s. It’s actually my mom’s story.
When my mom was kid, one of her friends had a brain tumor and eventually slipped into a coma.
The family was told there is no hope for recovery and he’s going to die.
One day the kid woke up from his coma and said he was hungry. Of course everyone was shocked. That was amazing enough, and then he said he “went to Heaven and St. Peter and St. Paul were fighting over me and couldn’t decide so they sent me back.” And when they ran tests they discovered his tumor was gone. It really was a miracle. This kid was on death’s door and made a full recovery.
Also, his family was not religious and the kid was not familiar with “St. Peter and St. Paul”, which adds to the mystery.
When my mom was kid, one of her friends had a brain tumor and eventually slipped into a coma.
The family was told there is no hope for recovery and he’s going to die.
One day the kid woke up from his coma and said he was hungry. Of course everyone was shocked. That was amazing enough, and then he said he “went to Heaven and St. Peter and St. Paul were fighting over me and couldn’t decide so they sent me back.” And when they ran tests they discovered his tumor was gone. It really was a miracle. This kid was on death’s door and made a full recovery.
Also, his family was not religious and the kid was not familiar with “St. Peter and St. Paul”, which adds to the mystery.
This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 3:57 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:56 pm to theunknownknight
Praise a god!
Now, if it comes back, can we say this god is an a-hole or is it just "Mysterious Ways?"
Now, if it comes back, can we say this god is an a-hole or is it just "Mysterious Ways?"
Posted on 12/18/18 at 3:57 pm to Teague
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Let's ignore the statistics that say they don't.
What would they help? Doesn't "god" have a perfect plan and know everything that will ever happen already? What are you praying for? Him to change his plan?
Again, the arrogance is fun to watch.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:00 pm to Dr RC
Reminds me of a family member who had some non-criminal legal issues and eventually it all worked out in their favor.
Of course, all credit went to god instead of the lawyer who helped them through every step of the process and negotiated a great deal for free as a favor.
Of course, all credit went to god instead of the lawyer who helped them through every step of the process and negotiated a great deal for free as a favor.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:00 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Doesn't sound like they're baffled at all.
“The tumor is undetectable on the MRI scan, which is really unusual
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:02 pm to theunknownknight
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This post was edited on 12/18/18 at 4:05 pm
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:03 pm to theunknownknight
If the tumor comes back, will all this be some supernatural practical joke?
You're healed!
Psyche!
You're healed!
Psyche!
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:04 pm to shel311
This was probably not a DIPG. There have been a handful of kids that have survived diagnosis of DIPG. However most Nuero-Oncologist would tell you that it was not a DIPG just some type of tumor with similar pathology and location in the brain stem. It was probably a low grade Glioma.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:04 pm to SoulGlo
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I am always amused by the arrogance on the part of the "just a coincidence" crowd. Yeah, it may be. It also may be that prayer actually helped.
I think it comes from both sides. For example, look at the title of this thread:
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Girl with inoperable brain tumor healed by prayer.
If it's arrogance on the part of the non-believer to affirmatively state that it's a coincidence, is it arrogance on the part of the believer to affirmatively state that she was healed by prayer?
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:10 pm to Reda LSU
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The reason jesus and religion were made was to be a means of keeping people in the world motivated for a "purpose"
if there was no god, religious people would have nothing to live for.
I’ll pray for you.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:11 pm to Tempratt
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Miracles can and do happen with regularity.
Yes, medical miracles, made possible by millions of men and women over the years by intensive study, trial and error, and advancements in that field.
We’ve gone from
To being able to save people who are almost surely doomed, and make them well again.
So let’s thank the doctors and nurses and researchers. Positive attitudes help and i’ll Never denigrate the role the Church serves with places like St. Jude and other hospitals...but let’s not pretend that it happens in a vacuum.
That’s faith healing bupkis which has been proven to be a sham.
Posted on 12/18/18 at 4:11 pm to MightyYat
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help the people that believe in it get through whatever they're going through and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
We agree.
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However, there is no supernatural anything sitting in a room in heaven just dictating things for less than a 1/4 of earth's population. It's amazing to me how many people choose to ignore all logic when it comes to religious beliefs.
You don't know that, and neither do they. To say that "there is no..." requires the belief that you know everything there is to know about the universe. You don't.
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