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re: OTD in 1865, Gen. Lee gave his sword to Gen. Grant
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:41 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:41 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Because the southern leadership was immensely better than the union’s, especially at the outset.
Meh. Some of this is a little overblown. Yes, Lee outclasses the Army of the Potomac heads at first, but that’s a rather myopic view of the war.
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:41 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Saddest day in the south’s history, boys and girls.
If you’re trashy
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:42 am to magildachunks
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The "C" student destroyed both the South's "A" students in the real world.
that's where the bumper sticker, "My Kid Can Whip Your Honor Student's arse" originated, all the union cavalry men started putting it on their horse's asses
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:44 am to TigerFanInSouthland
My yankee ancestors sending southern terrorists to hell at the end of their bayonets, while they whimpered one last weak rebel cry... 
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:46 am to magildachunks
Those A students fought for four years with a bunch of soldiers with no shoes, no logistics, and not even close to as much manpower. And beat the hell out of those northern generals majority of the time. And did so with honor and dignity.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 8:53 am
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:46 am to crispyUGA
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I'd a that the saddest day in the South's history is the day that South Carolina chose to seceded, and the others followed. That was what kicked off a war that could not be won and would leave a wound that still hasn't completely healed today.
You're not going to get the "South Will Rise Again" crowd to believe this. It would involve studying and understanding history.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:54 am to JackieTreehorn
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If both sides had equivalent resources and population, the South would have won it in under 2 years.
If tits and butts were dicks and nuts my aunt would be my uncle.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:58 am to TigerFanInSouthland
If only the south had hired on tons of immigrants as indentured servants instead of pricey african slaves. The entire country would have a better manufacturing and agricultural foundation.
One slave cost years of wages to an immigrant sharecropper. Then just as now, the cheapest option is rarely the best in the long term.
One slave cost years of wages to an immigrant sharecropper. Then just as now, the cheapest option is rarely the best in the long term.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 8:59 am to TigerFanInSouthland
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Those A students fought for four years with a bunch of soldiers with no shoes, no logistics, and not even close to as much manpower. And beat the hell out of those northern generals majority of the time.
No.
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And did so with honor and dignity.
The Union didn't fight with honor and dignity?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:00 am to jmarto1
The south's only chance at all, was the north letting them go unopposed. That is what they anted. It's a shame they didn't see that it was impossible,
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:05 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:09 am to magildachunks
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Maybe they should have thought twice before trying to start a gunfight with a knife.
Tell that to the Tigers. Those Irish and cajuns were notorious for closing the gap and using blades in favor of guns.
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:11 am to cubsfan5150
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good guys
at idea Grant and Sherman can be considered anything like "good guys" - some of the most prolific butchers in U.S. history - and that's mainly of their own troops. Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:16 am to TigerFanInSouthland
You know the world isn't fair when the second greatest general (Washington #1) of modern time seceded his sword to an alcoholic silver spoon.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:18 am to Ace Midnight
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at idea Grant and Sherman can be considered anything like "good guys"
I bet you like Patton and MacArthur, though.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:18 am to TigerFanInSouthland
Lee signed the surrender with his right hand and he was left handed, so, surrender isn't official. The Civil War has still been raging all of these years and nobody even knows it.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:19 am to TigerFanInSouthland
America, frick Yeah?
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:19 am to Ash Williams
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Saddest day in the south’s history, boys and girls.
Was when we decided to start importing slave labor
We? WE? It was an institution not invented nor initiated in this instance by "the south." It was, however, more useful to the south, and so it remained there longer. But "the south" did not decide to start importing slave labor. The English colonies did. And what an awful institution it was (and is in other parts of the world).
It unfortunately took 600,000 casualties to bring it to an end and usher in a rapid expansion of federal power which has swelled to what we see today. Preferably, the tractor and cotton gin would have come about 30 years earlier, made the abolitionist cause largely unopposed, avoided the issue of slavery, and saved the issue of federal say-so for another day.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:20 am to crispyUGA
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That was what kicked off a war that could not be won
Had that followed Forrest's plan for warfare, they likely would have won. Lee didn't like it because it was "dishonorable." It's nearly impossible to win a native guerrilla conflict as a foreign invader.
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would leave a wound that still hasn't completely healed today
The war was a symptom of this mindset- not the cause. Armed conflict between the peoples was inevitable, the seeds of which were sown during the Revolutionary War, and continued through the Nullification Crisis. The two countries simply didn't see the world the same way, and still don't. It's a forced marriage, that probably would have been better served as a peaceful divorce/dissolution.
As Shelby Foote said, had the states of the South known that the Declaration of independence didn't allow for an out clause, they never would have agreed to it.
Posted on 4/9/18 at 9:20 am to TigerFanInSouthland
frick those Yankee shits
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