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re: Uber Halts Autonomous-Car Testing After Fatal Arizona Crash
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:59 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:59 pm to CAD703X
I know it doesn't really matter, but I wonder if the pedestrian was in the crosswalk. when you're driving do you often punish people who fail to use the crosswalk by killing them?
It makes a huge difference. Was this a situation that if a human were driving it could have been prevented or one that would have happened no matter what, i.e. stepping out from between cars into traffic.
It makes a huge difference. Was this a situation that if a human were driving it could have been prevented or one that would have happened no matter what, i.e. stepping out from between cars into traffic.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:00 pm to CAD703X
So you're saying end all human drivers?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:00 pm to CAD703X
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finally someone with an ounce of intelligence in this thread besides me who gets the basic problem.
Nothing he said was anywhere close to the nonsense you've been posting
Don't drag slack down with you.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:00 pm to slackster
quote:Which means it's not the self driving car that has the issue, that's the human drivers that are wrong here.
Autonomous vehicles are rarely at fault in accidents, but they're involved in more total accidents than most experienced drivers. The theory is that their strict adherence to traffic laws causes human drivers to hit them more often.
Which also means or at least insinuates if there were no human drivers, we'd be much safer off, right? And we're still in the infancy stages of this, it'll obviously be better 10, 20, 50 years from now.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:01 pm to TH03
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On a type of road they SPECIFICALLY TOLD him not to use? YES. Good God you're dense.
no, i'm just not a sanctimonious OT prick who NEVER drinks or gets behind the wheel when they do, never jaywalks, never speeds, never changes lanes without using a blinker and never makes a mistake in anything i do.
(not saying you are TH03 just pointing out people act like WELL IF PEOPLE WERE NOT DUMB THEY WOULDN'T BE KILLED BY ROBOT CARS)
same old tired OT 'i abide by all rules' crap.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:01 pm to CAD703X
quote:In what you quoted the basic problem is human drivers.
finally someone with an ounce of intelligence in this thread besides me who gets the basic problem.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:01 pm to slackster
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The pedestrian was actually on a bicycle.
The media doesn't give two craps about getting the facts straight. I have seen several different sources for this story that alternate between the vic being on a bike or walking. Hell, one story had a pic of the crashed bike and called her a bike rider in one paragraph and a pedestrian on foot in the next paragraph. Pretty bad when a single news source can't get the story right from paragraph to paragraph.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:02 pm to slackster
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Autonomous vehicles are rarely at fault in accidents, but they're involved in more total accidents than most experienced drivers.
I'm going to need some numbers on accidents per mile driven to back up this claim.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:02 pm to shel311
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Which means it's not the self driving car that has the issue, that's the human drivers that are wrong here.
i'm out of this thread now
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:03 pm to CAD703X
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WELL IF PEOPLE WERE NOT DUMB THEY WOULDN'T BE KILLED BY ROBOT CARS)
same old tired OT 'i abide by all rules' crap.
These don't contradict though. You can admit that humans need to bear some responsibility for their actions while also being a person who acts in the same stupid ways.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:03 pm to CAD703X
Nevermind that the quote literally said self driving cars are rarely at fault, who cares about that. All that quote meant is human drivers are used to shitty human drivers so they expect shitty human driving. Meaning, human drivers are at fault, that's so from that quote.
quote:Cool, we can maybe get reasonable discussions on this.
i'm out of this thread now
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:04 pm to jbgleason
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The media doesn't give two craps about getting the facts straight. I have seen several different sources for this story that alternate between the vic being on a bike or walking. Hell, one story had a pic of the crashed bike and called her a bike rider in one paragraph and a pedestrian on foot in the next paragraph. Pretty bad when a single news source can't get the story right from paragraph to paragraph.
It's a pretty clear false flag. Probably a joint effort from CAD and eBay once they found out Amazon was helping Uber with their software.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:04 pm to LaBR4
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hopefully it wasn't an ASU coed
there's a joke somewhere in here about the car posting "IWHI" on a message board...
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:04 pm to TH03
quote:The problem is Elon Musk is involved in self driving cars, so that poster will never admit to anything like that, he'd rather make really, really bad posts that make no sense as long as it allows him to discredit Elon Musk.
These don't contradict though. You can admit that humans need to bear some responsibility for their actions while also being a person who acts in the same stupid ways.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:04 pm to Lou Pai
Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelet.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:05 pm to TH03
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These don't contradict though. You can admit that humans need to bear some responsibility for their actions while also being a person who acts in the same stupid ways.
see above. she1312 just sold us out to HAL. i for one will fight for my last remaining imperfect human holdouts in the comfort of my EMT-proof bunker.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:06 pm to shel311
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Which also means or at least insinuates if there were no human drivers, we'd be much safer off, right?
Yes.
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Which means it's not the self driving car that has the issue, that's the human drivers that are wrong here.
Yes, but if you're involved in more total accidents - even if they're not your fault - you're going to have problems.
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And we're still in the infancy stages of this, it'll obviously be better 10, 20, 50 years from now.
Yes, in all likelihood, it will be much better down the road. It's still a major concern at the moment though.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:07 pm to slackster
she311, feel honored. you're my new sig quote
ugly bags of mostly water!
ugly bags of mostly water!
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:09 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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I'm going to need some numbers on accidents per mile driven to back up this claim.
Waymo was involved in more total accidents than any group of drivers between 25 and 85.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 1:09 pm to slackster
quote:I don't disagree but again, we have to acknowledge who is at fault or responsible here, it's proven that it's the human drivers.
Yes, but if you're involved in more total accidents - even if they're not your fault - you're going to have problems.
quote:Sure it is, but so are human drivers right now.
Yes, in all likelihood, it will be much better down the road. It's still a major concern at the moment though.
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