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Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:49 pm to lsupride87
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Of course not. But I think the geek can make it to where they make it safer than a human
100% in agreement with computer *****ASSISTED****** driving.
100% not in agreement with computer ****MAKING ALL DRIVING DECISIONS BY ITSELF*****
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:50 pm to CAD703X
quote:I like how he says I moved the goalpost then responds to the question of how I moved the goalposts by talking about a completely different example.
because the tesla homos have been sucking on elon's jock strap since the first dude was beheaded going 70mph using 'auto pilot' because he got 'too comfortable' with it and tesla's flawless engineering team simply couldn't account for a FIFTY FOOT TRACTOR TRAILER BLOCKING THE ROAD.
You dodged that one, it's obvious why.
quote:I actually read the article and posted the findings, you still don't realize that, which is funny to me.
but shel1l31 is all like 'well this time the robot car will get it right' and everyone else is using the robot car wrong.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:50 pm to shel311
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It's not, he doesn't realize what I said came straight from the article.
dude, realize when you're beaten.
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the main issue was giving the driver the leeway to be using it incorrectly, meaning, it was user error.
hmmmmm, you mean you are admitted the SOFTWARE WAS FLAWED?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:51 pm to shel311
Video of the scene
The pedestrian was actually on a bicycle. Unless the vehicles were moved, it doesn't appear the Uber vehicle left its lane.
The pedestrian was actually on a bicycle. Unless the vehicles were moved, it doesn't appear the Uber vehicle left its lane.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:51 pm to CAD703X
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and tesla's flawless engineering team simply couldn't account for a FIFTY FOOT TRACTOR TRAILER BLOCKING THE ROAD.
The one the human couldn't account for either?
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The accident occurred on a divided road with occasional intersections and the company had warned owners not to use Autopilot in those conditions.
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His car showed no signs that he tried to brake or evade the truck, which was making a left turn, as he drove at 74 miles an hour.
He used it in a manner they told him NOT to. Meaning they admitted it isn't perfect and said don't use it like it is, especially on the exact type of place this wreck happened.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:52 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:52 pm to CAD703X
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the main issue was giving the driver the leeway to be using it incorrectly, meaning, it was user error.
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dude, realize when you're beaten.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:52 pm to CAD703X
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dude, realize when you're beaten.
quote:Yea, I know the software isn't perfect, which is why the driver wasn't supposed to be using it there. Read the article, read the findings, it's exactly what I said.
hmmmmm, you mean you are admitted the SOFTWARE WAS FLAWED?
Thanks for proving my point. It also doesn't have to be perfect to be viable, it just has to be better than human drivers, and in case you haven't noticed, humans are shitty drivers generally speaking.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:53 pm to TH03
quote:That poster somehow thinks that proved HIS point.
He used it in a manner they told him NOT to. Meaning they admitted it isn't perfect and said don't use it like it is, especially on the exact type of place this wreck happened.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:54 pm to CAD703X
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now, are you of the opinion that some geek writing code can account for every type of scenario where a person ends up in contact with a vehicle?
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i'm in software development
Well, if someone with your logical abilities is writing the code, then no.
Even then, as you've repeatedly ignored, it doesn't have to be perfect. Just better than the humans.
2 or 3 pedestrian have been killed by a self-driving car, ever.
How many pedestrians were killed by human drivers yesterday?
I'll wait.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:55 pm to TH03
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The one the human couldn't account for either?
The human was allowed to watch a Harry Potter DVD instead of watching the road thanks to God Musk's excellent software!
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He used it in a manner they told him NOT to.
so its the user's fault he was lulled into a fake sense of security and forgot about watching the road.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:55 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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How many pedestrians were killed by human drivers yesterday?
15 is the daily average according to my link.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:56 pm to shel311
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Thanks for proving my point. It also doesn't have to be perfect to be viable, it just has to be better than human drivers,
EXCEPT IN THE TESLA CASE THE HUMAN WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY WITHOUT THIS FEATURE!!
...or are you going to sit here and tell me he wouldn't have avoided hitting that 18 wheeler if he was driving?
oh sheeet, does that not fit your little 'computer is better than humans driver' narrative?
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:56 pm to shel311
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Thanks for proving my point. It also doesn't have to be perfect to be viable, it just has to be better than human drivers, and in case you haven't noticed, humans are shitty drivers generally speaking.
To be fair, humans understand how other humans drive better than autonomous cars, at least up to this point.
Autonomous vehicles are rarely at fault in accidents, but they're involved in more total accidents than most experienced drivers. The theory is that their strict adherence to traffic laws causes human drivers to hit them more often.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:58 pm to CAD703X
quote:Yes
so its the user's fault
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:58 pm to CAD703X
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The human was allowed to watch a Harry Potter DVD instead of watching the road thanks to God Musk's excellent software
Not on that road. Try to actually read the article and the statements from NTSB.
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so its the user's fault he was lulled into a fake sense of security and forgot about watching the road.
On a type of road they SPECIFICALLY TOLD him not to use? YES. Good God you're dense.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:58 pm to slackster
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Autonomous vehicles are rarely at fault in accidents, but they're involved in more total accidents than most experienced drivers. The theory is that their strict adherence to traffic laws causes human drivers to hit them more often.
this man fricks.
finally someone with an ounce of intelligence in this thread besides me who gets the basic problem.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:59 pm to CAD703X
quote:As well as if the driver used the feature the way he should have.
EXCEPT IN THE TESLA CASE THE HUMAN WOULD STILL BE ALIVE TODAY WITHOUT THIS FEATURE!!
quote:I'm telling you he wasn't supposed to be using the feature, but he did.
...or are you going to sit here and tell me he wouldn't have avoided hitting that 18 wheeler if he was driving?
quote:Still moving the goalposts and ignoring how human drivers kill pedestrians too, I see. You're doing great!!!
oh sheeet, does that not fit your little 'computer is better than humans driver' narrative?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:59 pm to CAD703X
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or are you going to sit here and tell me he wouldn't have avoided hitting that 18 wheeler if he was driving?
Well he didn't. And it's his fault he used the feature on a road they told him not to use it on.
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