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re: Uber Halts Autonomous-Car Testing After Fatal Arizona Crash
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:07 pm to shel311
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:07 pm to shel311
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What we do know is that early reports are stating there was NOTHING the human or robot car could have done
Bumpity bump bump bump shell. Looks like CAD was right and the human wasn't remotely engaged.
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Dashcam video was released Wednesday night showing the dramatic and deadly crash of a self-driving Uber SUV in Arizona — as the woman operating the vehicle had her head down.
But but but.. The driver couldn't stop in time either! Cad is an idiot for saying she wasn't paying attention
dashcam video says hi
Woman "driver" on left, victim right
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 8:08 pm
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Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:13 pm to CAD703X
Wow, that is one fat ugly woman...almost looks like a dude.
And that article put the mug shot of the woman who got killed...classy...
And that article put the mug shot of the woman who got killed...classy...
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 8:15 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:18 pm to CAD703X
That has nothing to do with the automated car. I would have hit her to in that circumstance.
She was basically invisible until too late.
She was basically invisible until too late.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:34 pm to SG_Geaux
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That has nothing to do with the automated car. I would have hit her to in that circumstance.
She was basically invisible until too late.
Yeah. Pretty much any driver would have hit that dumb arse trying to cross the street there.
I'm certainly not looking at this as a very big mark against self driving cars.
Posted on 3/21/18 at 9:44 pm to CAD703X
quote:Did you read the article you just linked?
Bumpity bump bump bump shell. Looks like CAD was right and the human wasn't remotely engaged.
Did you watch the dash cam video?
You were absolutely wrong
This post was edited on 3/21/18 at 9:46 pm
Posted on 3/21/18 at 10:19 pm to CAD703X
As a surveillance expert I can tell you 100% that video is not the raw original video.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:34 am to tylercsbn9
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Yeah. Pretty much any driver would have hit that dumb arse trying to cross the street there.
I'm certainly not looking at this as a very big mark against self driving cars.
I thought this was one if the advantages of self driving cars? The sensors do not need light. The car was not blinded by the darkness and get it still failed to see a bike rider.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 12:36 am to deeprig9
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As a surveillance expert I can tell you 100% that video is not the raw original video.
Are you saying it was actually a woman driving?
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:32 am to BHM
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I thought this was one if the advantages of self driving cars? The sensors do not need light. The car was not blinded by the darkness and get it still failed to see a bike rider.
The car probably did detect the bike rider, and could have even slowed down, but if the bike rider was stationary. then stepped in front of the car in less time than it takes for the car to stop in the available distance, then the car is going to strike the bike rider regardless if it is a man, woman, or machine driving , just simple physics. I believe autonomous cars are already capable of operating safely, and producing a lower accident rate than that of the average human driver. If the expectation is zero accidents and fatalities then they might as will stop the program, its not going to ever operate at that level, but then neither do our airlines where the public has accepted the fact that there will be infrequent accidents.
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 1:46 am
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:20 am to EA6B
She had crossed 3.75 lanes before being hit. Radar should have picked her up when she entered roadway and computers should have calculated an impact and began braking.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:45 am to Capt ST
A human driver (not that fat POS along for the ride) would have seen that lady and slowed down ahead of time.
If we're going to have autonmous cars, may as well just have dedicated lanes for them. It will increase the efficiency if the entire roadway is autonomous. Have separate lanes for the people aren't pussies and still have the courage to drive.
If we're going to have autonmous cars, may as well just have dedicated lanes for them. It will increase the efficiency if the entire roadway is autonomous. Have separate lanes for the people aren't pussies and still have the courage to drive.
Posted on 3/22/18 at 10:06 pm to starsandstripes
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A human driver (not that fat POS along for the ride) would have seen that lady and slowed down ahead of time.
From the dash footage, the victim wasn’t visible until she was right in front of the car which was traveling fast. Unless you have night vision, I don’t think many humans avoid this.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:46 am to SUB
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From the dash footage, the victim wasn’t visible until she was right in front of the car which was traveling fast. Unless you have night vision, I don’t think many humans avoid this.
LOL at everyone who thinks the dascham is what human eyes see. Cameras are notoriously bad at picking up low-light details. And that's assuming that Uber didn't straight up manipulate the footage to make the resolution worse. Big assumption.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:48 am to Lou Pai
Who didn’t see this coming? Motion detection technology isn’t 100%.
Was this in a crosswalk or was she just running across the road illegally?
Was this in a crosswalk or was she just running across the road illegally?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 8:59 am to Buryl
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LOL at everyone who thinks the dascham is what human eyes see.
That's why I said "From the dash footage."
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Cameras are notoriously bad at picking up low-light details.
Cameras are also capable of behaving the exact opposite. I would hope that ones placed on autonomous vehicles would be able to do this. But all we have is this video that they released to go by. You can make assumptions either way.
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:11 am to SUB
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But all we have is this video that they released to go by. You can make assumptions either way.
radar and lidar don't work in the dark?
Posted on 3/23/18 at 9:58 am to CAD703X
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radar and lidar don't work in the dark?
When did I say anything about that? I just said that if you just go by what the video shows, a human probably wouldn't have stopped in time either. It's debatable that the video may have been doctored or doesn't show what a human would have seen with the naked eye. The "driver" wasn't paying attention so it's hard to say either way.
Other technology should have spotted the person and stopped the car, so yeah, something is off.
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