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re: Uber Halts Autonomous-Car Testing After Fatal Arizona Crash
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:41 pm to CAD703X
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:41 pm to CAD703X
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i'm not going to go into the demographics of who is more prone to jaywalk but suffice it to say this happens enough that i cant imagine an autonomous car being injected into the mix without catastrophic results.
Because humans never hit pedestrians ever.
Seriously you sound like you probably opposed the steam engine train back in your youth.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:42 pm to TH03
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If she had done that half a second later, I'd have probably hit her
let me highlight the word he used here and remind you he did NOT hit her.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:42 pm to fallguy_1978
quote:It was ONLY automated steering, and it should not have been used when it was being used. Your link even stated Tesla's car worked as designed in that case, and the main issue was giving the driver the leeway to be using it incorrectly, meaning, it was user error.
A self driving Tesla already killed a guy in Florida
Bloomberg
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:42 pm to shel311
Nah..that is a reach that last part.
This post was edited on 3/19/18 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:43 pm to CAD703X
quote:Why are you acting like a self automated car DEFINITELY would have?
let me highlight the word he used here and remind you he did NOT hit her.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:43 pm to lsupride87
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so you are of the opinion the cars will never be able to have a quicker reaction time than humans?
sure, i willingly admit that.
now, are you of the opinion that some geek writing code can account for every type of scenario where a person ends up in contact with a vehicle?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:43 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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Self driving cars don’t need to achieve perfection, they just have to beat the average set by current drivers.
They have to do much better than the average of current drivers in order to be financially feasible. The cost of an accident is significantly higher for a deep-pocketed software company than it is for John Doe.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:44 pm to CAD703X
quote:I think you should because you clearly missed it but then again you're the same guy who thinks it's impossible to have a situation where someone runs onto a road a human driver or self driver has no chance to brake, so you're not giving me much to work with.
read what you wrote again slowly.
You're pretty clueless on this one.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:44 pm to CAD703X
quote:And you're putting your faith into human drivers who NEVER SCREW UP!!!
i'm in software development and goddamn y'all put a lot of faith in the God of non-buggy code on here.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:44 pm to shel311
quote:
It was ONLY automated steering, and it should not have been used when it was being used. Your link even stated Tesla's car worked as designed in that case, and the main issue was giving the driver the leeway to be using it incorrectly, meaning, it was user error.
all computer-controlled autonomous vehicle software code is not created equal now right?
too much
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:45 pm to CAD703X
quote:
now, are you of the opinion that some geek writing code can account for every type of scenario where a person ends up in contact with a vehicle?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:45 pm to lsupride87
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Why are you acting like a self automated car DEFINITELY would have?
well we already have 4-5 instances of people being killed by them..so there's that.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:46 pm to CAD703X
How is that moving the goal posts? I'd really like to know.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:46 pm to CAD703X
quote:This is meaningless unless you can prove the self driving car would have, which you can't.
let me highlight the word he used here and remind you he did NOT hit her.
So what's your point?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:46 pm to CAD703X
quote:Of course not. But I think the geek can make it to where they make it safer than a human
now, are you of the opinion that some geek writing code can account for every type of scenario where a person ends up in contact with a vehicle?
Humans eat and look at cell phones
Humans get blow jobs while drving
Humans get drunk and drive
etc etc etc
All those things we wont have to worry about and more... So yes, the computer will have issues that humans dont. But i think they will still be able to create a system that is ultimately safer.
I am fine you have a different opinion, but honestly, your posting makes it obvious you dont have the logic to even understand this topic fully
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:47 pm to CAD703X
quote:Probably not but I have no doubt we will eventually have self driving cars that are safer than human driving cars. No question about that, that will happen.
now, are you of the opinion that some geek writing code can account for every type of scenario where a person ends up in contact with a vehicle?
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:47 pm to CAD703X
quote:Good thing I cant find anything of humans killing people with cars
well we already have 4-5 instances of people being killed by them..so there's that.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:47 pm to TH03
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How is that moving the goal posts? I'd really like to know.
because the tesla homos have been sucking on elon's jock strap since the first dude was beheaded going 70mph using 'auto pilot' because he got 'too comfortable' with it and tesla's flawless engineering team simply couldn't account for a FIFTY FOOT TRACTOR TRAILER BLOCKING THE ROAD.
but shel1l31 is all like 'well this time the robot car will get it right' and everyone else is using the robot car wrong.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:47 pm to CAD703X
quote:Somebody didn't read the article.
all computer-controlled autonomous vehicle software code is not created equal now right?
Read it then get back to me. What I said was basically from teh article...the one you didn't read.
Posted on 3/19/18 at 12:48 pm to CAD703X
quote:What an awful point, you gotta be trolling here.
well we already have 4-5 instances of people being killed by them..so there's that.
In that time we've had 0 instances of human drivers killing pedestrians, right?
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