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WTF Philly? Proposed ban on bulletproof glass.

Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:32 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18928 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:32 am
This sounds like something our illustrious Mayor would come up with.

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Philadelphia is one step closer to getting rid of bulletproof glass in many of its small businesses as part of a larger effort to crack down on loitering, public urination and potential drug sales -- but it's triggered backlash from the shopkeepers.

The city's Public Health and Human Services Committee passed a bill that enables Philadelphia's Department of Licenses and Inspections to regulate the bullet-resistant barricades that stand between customers and cash registers in many neighborhood corner stores.


The City Councilwomans reasoning is a joke.

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Bass said the bulletproof glass and partitions at some of these businesses are a concern of the city’s health department, as if a customer is choking or having an allergic reaction, a barrier should not stand in the way of safety. She also addressed the security concerns. “Thousands of businesses operate in the same neighborhoods with no Plexiglass,” she told Fox News, mentioning stores like Rite-Aid and barber shops. “I’ve never been to a bar with Plexiglass.”


This is on par with more street lights will make less crime. Avoid the issue and blame extraneous factors.
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Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24186 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:35 am to
It will pass and then a shop owner who was forced to get rid of his glass will die. And, the law will switch back.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21578 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:35 am to
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Philadelphia is one step closer to getting rid of bulletproof glass in many of its small businesses as part of a larger effort to crack down on loitering, public urination and potential drug sales


So, getting rid of bulletproof glass reduces pissing outside? I must have lost some valuable brain cells lately because I can't figure out that connection at all.
Posted by Bunta
Member since Oct 2007
12258 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:36 am to
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Bass said the bulletproof glass and partitions at some of these businesses are a concern of the city’s health department, as if a customer is choking or having an allergic reaction, a barrier should not stand in the way of safety.

I wasn't aware they didn't have doors in Philly.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85136 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:40 am to
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Fox News previously reported that the bill, put forward by Councilwoman Cindy Bass, focuses on “stop-and-go” convenience stores that act more like bars than the restaurants they are licensed to be, selling beer and shots of liquor over the counter and attracting crowds that end up becoming public nuisances, according to lawmakers.

Pennsylvania state law mandates businesses with restaurant licenses should regularly sell food and have tables and chairs to seat 30 people. But some businesses keep their seating locked up or out of reach and the grills shut down, selling little more than alcohol and forcing customers to wander outside.

Bass told Fox News that in “more than 90 percent of cases they are breaking the law in terms of operating outside the requirement of their license.”


That makes sense and would be a problem, but I still have no clue what bullet proof glass elimination would solve.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30608 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:43 am to
Idiots legislating for the criminals. Just like in BR
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6819 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:44 am to
None of that makes any sense...you did say woman in there somewhere I thought...makes sense now.

Just kidding....


















About it making sense now.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25395 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:46 am to
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a barrier should not stand in the way of safety


A barrier is safety. This story reminds me how catastrophic of a frick up Philly really is.

Philly thinks its in the same league as DC, New York, Chicago, or Boston....but it's really more like Baltimore to me.
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
6778 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:50 am to
Trying to push out the Asian store owners.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69196 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:56 am to
I hate going into a store and it's behind glass.
I remember if I picked up a pizza in BR byvmy house. Both Dominos and p johns were behind glass.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 9:08 am
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
11310 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:57 am to
Culcha gonna Culcha
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134887 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:57 am to
Probably shouldn't have locks on the doors. Those are life threatening barriers as well.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89618 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 7:59 am to
They take your guns, then your armor and finally your right to defend yourself.

Why? Criminals are clearly their target constituency. There is no other reasonable conclusion that can be drawn.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
11485 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:03 am to
Block wall off the partition, put in a bank of bullet resistant doors with a service box in the door. Make it all hollow metal doors then you arent using “glass”.
Posted by SCLSUMuddogs
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2010
6899 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Philadelphia is one step closer to getting rid of bulletproof glass in many of its small businesses as part of a larger effort to crack down on loitering, public urination and potential drug sales


quote:

Bass said the bulletproof glass and partitions at some of these businesses are a concern of the city’s health department, as if a customer is choking or having an allergic reaction, a barrier should not stand in the way of safety


I don't understand how removing Plexiglass helps any of this. The employee isn't locked in the room with bulletproof glass. Just walik out the door and give the heimlich
Posted by whit
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
10999 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:31 am to
I refuse to believe this is real.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
6592 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:32 am to
Unless city police is willing to come in there and take my bullet proof glass away, they can't have it and might die trying. Tell them to shove it. How in the hell is getting rid of bullet proof glass going to cut down on loitering?

Come on Philadelphia citizens. You are one of our foundational centers of democracy and the Republic. Don't let these idiots do this dumb shite.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
61581 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:33 am to
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Philadelphia is one step closer to getting rid of bulletproof glass in many of its small businesses as part of a larger effort to crack down on loitering, public urination and potential drug sales


I don't understand the logic here. Are they saying if the cashiers weren't safe behind the counter they'd be running people off the corners? Plexiglass or not they're still going to be behind the counter most of the time. This sounds like something a crime boss (or evil land developer) would get the councilman he bought to push so he could take down a store owner that was in his way.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 8:34 am
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23183 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 8:51 am to
Feelings > than some Asian's right to life
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
19567 posts
Posted on 12/7/17 at 9:04 am to
So is the glass being banned because of a public safety concern, or a crime reduction measure, or both? If it's supposed to reduce crime, I promise I want to hear how.

If I were buying a convenience store in an area affected by this ban, I'd order the bullet resistant glass cut to my measurements and install it myself. If asked by authorities about it, I'd ask them to prove that it's "bullet proof".
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