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Coach O with 4th best odds to be first SEC coach fired this season

Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:14 pm
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Kevin Sumlin (Texas A&M) +140
Butch Jones (Tennessee) +140
Gus Malzahn (Auburn) +600
Ed Orgeron (LSU) +800
Derek Mason (Vanderbilt) +1200
Mark Stoops (Kentucky) +1200
Barry Odom (Missouri) +1200
Bret Bielema (Arkansas) +1600
Will Muschamp (South Carolina) +2000
Dan Mullen (Mississippi State) +2500
Jim McElwain (Florida) +4000
Kirby Smart (Georgia) +5000
Nick Saban (Alabama) +5000

Numbers 1 and 2 aren't surprising at all. Neither is number 14. But was does this say about the national perception of Ogeron? Mason had to be close to getting fired last season if not for a late 2 game winning streak to finish .500. Are folks in Arkansas all that happy with the progress of Bielema?

The only way I see O fired after one year is if he "tanks" (7-5 or close to that); Both Aranda and Canada want to move on; AND LSU knows a bigger name coach (Chip Kelly?) wants the LSU job. Otherwise, O is way too high on this list
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171077 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:14 pm to
I don't see anything wrong with the order really.

He won't be fired, but he had to go somewhere on the list.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted by Fus0623
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2015
88865 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:15 pm to
Nah, it's about right tbh. Really don't think this little experiment last long
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
25082 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:15 pm to
He's not getting fired this season barring any misconduct on his part.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
127462 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:17 pm to
quote:

The only way I see O fired after one year is if he "tanks" (7-5 or close to that);

I wasn't entirely sold on O being fired at 4-8. These guys have got to know something we don't.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14458 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:20 pm to
LOL at Malzahn being 3rd likely to get fired. Most analysts have Auburn as the 2nd best team in the SEC.
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
13501 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:20 pm to
C'mon guys!

To paraphrase Edwin Edwards, the only way O gets fired this year is if he's caught in bed with a dead girl, a live boy, or with Joe Alleva's wife!
Posted by TigerStripes30
Alexandria, LA
Member since Dec 2011
6369 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:21 pm to
id really make Bret Bielema like a +150 along with Dan Mullen at a +800. Id give Coach O prolly a solid +1200. Like many of you said "the only way he gets fired is if" he tanks it this year really bad or he makes some big booboos with recruiting.
Posted by TigerFan4040
Member since Sep 2013
4386 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:21 pm to
quote:

Coach O with 4th best odds to be first SEC coach fired this season


Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23188 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:22 pm to
McElwain is out of place. He wouldn't survive a 5 loss season IMO. He's the definition of mediocrity and UF isn't going to put up with that if they feel like they can upgrade.

Bielema should probably be higher too. It's clear he's not going to do anything at Arky but they may feel like he's the best it's going to get.
Posted by FiddleHead
Knoxville, TN
Member since Aug 2011
14776 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:23 pm to
Some people honestly believe O can build a dynasty program at LSU
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:25 pm to
quote:

But was does this say about the national perception of Ogeron?
That it's fair?

That's not a knock on O. It's just reality. Until he proves it on the field, all people can go by is his record. Hopefully, he proves them wrong.

That said, the odds still seem silly to me just because he would probably have to be catastrophically bad this year to get fired in one year.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:27 pm to
Outside of Sumlin and Jones, those are long odds for everyone else. O at +800, they calculate the probability of him retaining his job at about 88%.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:28 pm to
Put O at a school listed 5-10 on that list and I don't think the rankings change at all, and vice versa

It's more about LSU than O IMO, It's harder to hold onto a premier job. We just ran off a coach with an NC and 10 wins a year, hard to compare job security at LSU to that of a vandy or Kentucky
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
6794 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:30 pm to
Bielema and McElwain should be higher. Other than that, I would say the order is about perfect.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:31 pm to
Burt at +1600 is awfully tasty.

Posted by Sailin Tiger
Member since Jul 2014
1463 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:32 pm to
They only 2 im a little surprised at are Bielema and Mullen. Miss State could open the season as bad as 1-5 and Arkansas 2-5 which gets people fired in this conference. Not terribly likely but at those odds seems like a solid bet to make.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
29171 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

Are folks in Arkansas all that happy with the progress of Bielema?


has more to do with the insane buy out he has.
Posted by BayouBengal99
Crowley
Member since Oct 2007
9124 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:37 pm to
How is this news to anyone?

These odds will soon change after a great LSU season. 2 10-2 seasons with a big bowl win so 11-2 would put him right behind Nick Saban. shite can change real fast. Look at it this way, we have no where to go but up so if the perception is this bad and he's still pulling in top 10 recruiting classes imagine what he will be able to assemble with a nice visual for these parents of these recruits!!! Future looks very bright if O can pull off a successful season this year and another good one next, the year after that could be a championship for Ed O. Let's wait to see what happens. Perceptions can change pretty damn quickly with results.

Boy am I ready for some freakn football and I hope to god coach O and this team see all this garbage. I'm sure they are well aware of the national perception and they will be out to prove them all wrong. Can't wait for Saturday.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:43 pm to
Coach O has a $12 mil buyout this season. He's not getting fired.
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