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Coach O with 4th best odds to be first SEC coach fired this season
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:14 pm
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Kevin Sumlin (Texas A&M) +140
Butch Jones (Tennessee) +140
Gus Malzahn (Auburn) +600
Ed Orgeron (LSU) +800
Derek Mason (Vanderbilt) +1200
Mark Stoops (Kentucky) +1200
Barry Odom (Missouri) +1200
Bret Bielema (Arkansas) +1600
Will Muschamp (South Carolina) +2000
Dan Mullen (Mississippi State) +2500
Jim McElwain (Florida) +4000
Kirby Smart (Georgia) +5000
Nick Saban (Alabama) +5000
Numbers 1 and 2 aren't surprising at all. Neither is number 14. But was does this say about the national perception of Ogeron? Mason had to be close to getting fired last season if not for a late 2 game winning streak to finish .500. Are folks in Arkansas all that happy with the progress of Bielema?
The only way I see O fired after one year is if he "tanks" (7-5 or close to that); Both Aranda and Canada want to move on; AND LSU knows a bigger name coach (Chip Kelly?) wants the LSU job. Otherwise, O is way too high on this list
Kevin Sumlin (Texas A&M) +140
Butch Jones (Tennessee) +140
Gus Malzahn (Auburn) +600
Ed Orgeron (LSU) +800
Derek Mason (Vanderbilt) +1200
Mark Stoops (Kentucky) +1200
Barry Odom (Missouri) +1200
Bret Bielema (Arkansas) +1600
Will Muschamp (South Carolina) +2000
Dan Mullen (Mississippi State) +2500
Jim McElwain (Florida) +4000
Kirby Smart (Georgia) +5000
Nick Saban (Alabama) +5000
Numbers 1 and 2 aren't surprising at all. Neither is number 14. But was does this say about the national perception of Ogeron? Mason had to be close to getting fired last season if not for a late 2 game winning streak to finish .500. Are folks in Arkansas all that happy with the progress of Bielema?
The only way I see O fired after one year is if he "tanks" (7-5 or close to that); Both Aranda and Canada want to move on; AND LSU knows a bigger name coach (Chip Kelly?) wants the LSU job. Otherwise, O is way too high on this list
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:14 pm to Alt26
I don't see anything wrong with the order really.
He won't be fired, but he had to go somewhere on the list.
He won't be fired, but he had to go somewhere on the list.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:15 pm to Alt26
Nah, it's about right tbh. Really don't think this little experiment last long
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:15 pm to Alt26
He's not getting fired this season barring any misconduct on his part.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:17 pm to Alt26
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The only way I see O fired after one year is if he "tanks" (7-5 or close to that);
I wasn't entirely sold on O being fired at 4-8. These guys have got to know something we don't.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:20 pm to Alt26
LOL at Malzahn being 3rd likely to get fired. Most analysts have Auburn as the 2nd best team in the SEC.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:20 pm to Alt26
C'mon guys!
To paraphrase Edwin Edwards, the only way O gets fired this year is if he's caught in bed with a dead girl, a live boy, or with Joe Alleva's wife!
To paraphrase Edwin Edwards, the only way O gets fired this year is if he's caught in bed with a dead girl, a live boy, or with Joe Alleva's wife!
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:21 pm to Alt26
id really make Bret Bielema like a +150 along with Dan Mullen at a +800. Id give Coach O prolly a solid +1200. Like many of you said "the only way he gets fired is if" he tanks it this year really bad or he makes some big booboos with recruiting.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:21 pm to Alt26
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Coach O with 4th best odds to be first SEC coach fired this season
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:22 pm to Alt26
McElwain is out of place. He wouldn't survive a 5 loss season IMO. He's the definition of mediocrity and UF isn't going to put up with that if they feel like they can upgrade.
Bielema should probably be higher too. It's clear he's not going to do anything at Arky but they may feel like he's the best it's going to get.
Bielema should probably be higher too. It's clear he's not going to do anything at Arky but they may feel like he's the best it's going to get.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:23 pm to Alt26
Some people honestly believe O can build a dynasty program at LSU
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:25 pm to Alt26
quote:That it's fair?
But was does this say about the national perception of Ogeron?
That's not a knock on O. It's just reality. Until he proves it on the field, all people can go by is his record. Hopefully, he proves them wrong.
That said, the odds still seem silly to me just because he would probably have to be catastrophically bad this year to get fired in one year.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:27 pm to Alt26
Outside of Sumlin and Jones, those are long odds for everyone else. O at +800, they calculate the probability of him retaining his job at about 88%.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 3:28 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:28 pm to Alt26
Put O at a school listed 5-10 on that list and I don't think the rankings change at all, and vice versa
It's more about LSU than O IMO, It's harder to hold onto a premier job. We just ran off a coach with an NC and 10 wins a year, hard to compare job security at LSU to that of a vandy or Kentucky
It's more about LSU than O IMO, It's harder to hold onto a premier job. We just ran off a coach with an NC and 10 wins a year, hard to compare job security at LSU to that of a vandy or Kentucky
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 4:02 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:30 pm to Alt26
Bielema and McElwain should be higher. Other than that, I would say the order is about perfect.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:31 pm to Alt26
Burt at +1600 is awfully tasty.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:32 pm to Alt26
They only 2 im a little surprised at are Bielema and Mullen. Miss State could open the season as bad as 1-5 and Arkansas 2-5 which gets people fired in this conference. Not terribly likely but at those odds seems like a solid bet to make.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:34 pm to Alt26
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Are folks in Arkansas all that happy with the progress of Bielema?
has more to do with the insane buy out he has.
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:37 pm to Alt26
How is this news to anyone?
These odds will soon change after a great LSU season. 2 10-2 seasons with a big bowl win so 11-2 would put him right behind Nick Saban. shite can change real fast. Look at it this way, we have no where to go but up so if the perception is this bad and he's still pulling in top 10 recruiting classes imagine what he will be able to assemble with a nice visual for these parents of these recruits!!! Future looks very bright if O can pull off a successful season this year and another good one next, the year after that could be a championship for Ed O. Let's wait to see what happens. Perceptions can change pretty damn quickly with results.
Boy am I ready for some freakn football and I hope to god coach O and this team see all this garbage. I'm sure they are well aware of the national perception and they will be out to prove them all wrong. Can't wait for Saturday.
These odds will soon change after a great LSU season. 2 10-2 seasons with a big bowl win so 11-2 would put him right behind Nick Saban. shite can change real fast. Look at it this way, we have no where to go but up so if the perception is this bad and he's still pulling in top 10 recruiting classes imagine what he will be able to assemble with a nice visual for these parents of these recruits!!! Future looks very bright if O can pull off a successful season this year and another good one next, the year after that could be a championship for Ed O. Let's wait to see what happens. Perceptions can change pretty damn quickly with results.
Boy am I ready for some freakn football and I hope to god coach O and this team see all this garbage. I'm sure they are well aware of the national perception and they will be out to prove them all wrong. Can't wait for Saturday.
This post was edited on 8/31/17 at 3:40 pm
Posted on 8/31/17 at 3:43 pm to Alt26
Coach O has a $12 mil buyout this season. He's not getting fired.
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