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re: Why millennials suck: taking a "mental health day"
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:00 pm to More beer please
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:00 pm to More beer please
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20 year old chick wants to stay at home in her pajamas
Pics?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:01 pm to BluegrassBelle
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I've legitimately never heard of it not counting towards days or being "open ended". Hell, even FMLA isn't open ended.
Because OP is full of shite. It's coming out of PTO, HR just didn't feel the need to clue his nosey arse in on all the details of why someone else was missing work or how that missed time would be accounted for.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:02 pm to Uncle Stu
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apparently, this will not count against sick, vacation or personal days based on what was discussed, because we all have to be sensitive to the plight of the recent college graduate in the big bad scary new world....
You are misinformed. Educate yourself.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:15 pm to Uncle Stu
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it's this implication that somehow "mental health day" transcends the otherwise accepted days off an employee can take as part of the traditional employment agreement. That's what I dont agree with.
it's like some sort of irrefutable blanket excuse for taking the day off of work, and everyone just has to be OK with it, and yet all the PTO/sick days are still in tact.
Well I've never heard of that.
Being said, most American companies don't offer nearly enough PTO, and penalize for any time taken off that isn't PTO.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:17 pm to Uncle Stu
If they have the vacation time, what's the problem?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:19 pm to Uncle Stu
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how the frick our society has gotten so damn soft
Your generation were shitty parents?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:22 pm to Pecker
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I'm not sure how you quantify "harder" but they're working longer.
At least when compared to the previous generation.
Probably a byproduct of millennials being more interested or having to start their own businesses and holding multiple jobs to make up for the drop in pay as compared to previous generations.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:29 pm to Uncle Stu
Someone needs a Wellness day
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:33 pm to GeauxPhillies26
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You do realize that "mental health day" is usually a silly way to take a personal day, right? You frickface
How about not being a pussy and just say you're gonna stay home, sit on the couch, and get high/drunk?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:38 pm to Uncle Stu
I have a buddy who's an addiction counselor and he gets a few mental health days a year. I guess it's to recharge after helping people deal with their fricked up lives all day everyday.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:40 pm to Uncle Stu
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take off work, I dont give a shite....but now, there is an expectation that if I drop the "I need a day because my mental health is in jeopardy" that it's (a) automatic, and (b) not docking your accepted sick days or PTO?
Unlike with school, you are not obligated to disclose mental health issues with your employer.
I get it that like any other form of time off that it can get abused. If you have an employee that keeps conveniently having a mental health day before a big deadline then management needs to work with the employee to mitigate the situation. If it becomes apparent that they are simply lazy then find a reason to fire them.
One of the most helpless feelings is that you are alone and no one will understand. It can be hard for some people to reach out. I don't care how a company chooses to handle it, but I would say it is an appropriate usage of sick time.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:42 pm to 777Tiger
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what's worse is when they don't! I have a couple of nephews that are Navy pilots, whenever they're about to deploy the Navy has to make sure they are not in need of a mental health day before they go out to drop missiles and bombs, fricking millennials!
Because working in an office is comparable to military aviation. Everyone gets time off before a deployment and looking out for physical and mental well being is part it. That is why aviators are bound by regulations that are strictly adhered to such as maximum hours of operation per day, crew rest, and at least a 24 hour period of rest for so many consecutive days of operation. I was a controller in Iraq for 15 months with like guns and stuff so I know a bit about it. To my original point if it is a personal day and you want to use it as you see fit than fine ,but if you have to take a mental health day out of fear of shooting up an office if you don't than you have a much bigger problem and need to be in a psych ward.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 3:49 pm to GeauxPhillies26
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You do realize that "mental health day" is usually a silly way to take a personal day, right? You frickface
This.
I thought it was a euphemism? I usually take a mental health day the Monday after opening NFL Sunday. It is otherwise known as the bullshite-call-in.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:06 pm to Uncle Stu
So is this an issue related to the business owner, probably not a millennial. More likely someone about your age, I'd guess.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:09 pm to Pecker
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I can't help but roll my eyes when I hear someone say blah blah blah "millenials." It's the laziest most worthless of generalizations. It immediately makes me think that the person lacks the ability to reason or apply critical thinking. There's such a broad range of people that fall into that generation (as with any generation) which makes any attempt at a generalization pointless.
I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Pecker.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:12 pm to Uncle Stu
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take off work, I dont give a shite....but now, there is an expectation that if I drop the "I need a day because my mental health is in jeopardy" that it's (a) automatic, and (b) not docking your accepted sick days or PTO? seems alot like bullshite
Seems like you're jealous af that someone smarter than you found a way to take a random day off.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:14 pm to Uncle Stu
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it's not really my call
it's not really my direct employee, one that just sort of works around the office
it came up today in our dept meeting, ______ is taking off today for "mental health"
apparently, this will not count against sick, vacation or personal days based on what was discussed, because we all have to be sensitive to the plight of the recent college graduate in the big bad scary new world....
Yea....I think it's jealousy.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:31 pm to Uncle Stu
If you're their boss/manager is it better to just let them have it or to force them to come in and likely do a shitty job at work. Which then leaves you or another employee cleaning up their mess.
Though I can't imagine a scenario where an employer would let them take it without either burning a sick day or other PTO.
The only extra (non-PTO) time off we get is bereavement which counts funerals for direct family members.
Though I can't imagine a scenario where an employer would let them take it without either burning a sick day or other PTO.
The only extra (non-PTO) time off we get is bereavement which counts funerals for direct family members.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:35 pm to Uncle Stu
What company do you work for so I can avoid applying there?
Posted on 7/12/17 at 4:56 pm to DirtyMike
People have mental health problems. Sometimes, if not all the time, they can't control it. I have a friend that suffers from depression and sometimes it just hits him out of the blue. Everything in his life could be going well and his depression hits him. He takes medication for it, but sometimes he just can't help it. Think of it this way. We've all had a cold at one point. One day, we are fine. The next day, we 'feel' a cold coming on. Then the next day, we are sick. In my friends case, it very similar, only there are no physical signs of sickness. So, if a person wants to take a mental health day to get better, I'm all for it.
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