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re: Why millennials suck: taking a "mental health day"

Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:28 pm to
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Tell them to pick one, if they're taking a day off, they have to use a day of leave one way or another.

it's not really my call
it's not really my direct employee, one that just sort of works around the office

it came up today in our dept meeting, ______ is taking off today for "mental health"

apparently, this will not count against sick, vacation or personal days based on what was discussed, because we all have to be sensitive to the plight of the recent college graduate in the big bad scary new world....
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14873 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:29 pm to
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Who cares how a person chooses to use their PTO


I was going to quote this because I agree but

quote:

they dont think this is applicable to their PTO

this is an all new excused day off that doesnt ding their vacation days, nor their sick days, nor their PTO



Posted by Peepdip
Member since Aug 2016
4946 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:29 pm to
Not sticking up for millenials but depression/anxiety can be just as debilitating as any physical illness.
Posted by Walking the Earth
Member since Feb 2013
17464 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:31 pm to
It's management's fault. Getting drunk at lunch wasn't hurting anybody but y'all went all in on this "professionalism" bullshite.

Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14873 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:32 pm to
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Not sticking up for millenials but depression/anxiety can be just as debilitating as any physical illness.



Right but if you work an employer that offer's PTO which you can use for whatever you want, this shouldn't be a problem.

I do believe that employers should all just offer PTO and not segregate it by vacation, personal, sick, weather, etc..
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41898 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:33 pm to
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now, I have to excuse someone for taking a "Mental Health day" ?

-not a personal day
-not a sick day
-not a vacation day


It's a sick day.

Good for you if you don't have any legitimate mental health issues, but some people do, and you have to fricking deal with it.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:33 pm to
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I personally wouldn't allow my employees to use sick time for this, but if they wanted to use personal I say go for it.


I say in this case you would have to adjust that, because the lady in question does have mental issues and was taking sick leave to sort through them. They were praising her for her honesty.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:33 pm to
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they dont think this is applicable to their PTO

this is an all new excused day off that doesnt ding their vacation days, nor their sick days, nor their PTO


what companies offer this? I've never heard "taking a mental health day" outside of it being just someone using their PTO or sick time allotment.

However, if you can negotiate an extra form of PTO, shouldn't you be commended for that?
This post was edited on 7/12/17 at 1:35 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
41898 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:34 pm to
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I do believe that employers should all just offer PTO and not segregate it by vacation, personal, sick, weather, etc..



They have to segregate it because if you terminate an employee, you owe them for earned vacation. You do not owe them for unused sick days.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:34 pm to
I don't see the problem. For years it was called an "I'm going fishing day" and now it has a more appropriate name.
Posted by Whoopdedo_LSU
This is where I parked my car
Member since Oct 2015
1091 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:37 pm to
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Mental health day is just code for personal day. Ferris Bueller did it in 1985, this is hardly a millennial concept.


Correct. Lie like a adult damnit. Make an effort to not seem like child.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33877 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:38 pm to
I'm not arguing the veracity or validity of mental health being a legit reason for taking time off work

I get it, no argument here


it's this implication that somehow "mental health day" transcends the otherwise accepted days off an employee can take as part of the traditional employment agreement. That's what I dont agree with.

it's like some sort of irrefutable blanket excuse for taking the day off of work, and everyone just has to be OK with it, and yet all the PTO/sick days are still in tact.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:38 pm to
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I don't see the problem. For years it was called an "I'm going fishing day" and now it has a more appropriate name.


That's the whole point of why this went viral. She was honest with management about why she was using her sick leave and the CEO sent her an email directly commending her for her honesty and that she was more than welcome to use her leave for that reason.
Posted by dpd901
South Louisiana
Member since Apr 2011
7911 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:39 pm to
This is so pussified vs. how boomers handled it:

"Going postal"

Posted by PrivatePublic
Member since Nov 2012
17848 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:40 pm to
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I say in this case you would have to adjust that, because the lady in question does have mental issues and was taking sick leave to sort through them. They were praising her for her honesty.


If it really is for a health issue, it will be easy for her to present a doctor's note. Mental or physical.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14873 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:41 pm to
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They have to segregate it because if you terminate an employee, you owe them for earned vacation. You do not owe them for unused sick days.


Good point.

Then sick time should cover it. Mental health is just as big a deal as physical.
Posted by Uncle Stu
#AlbinoLivesMatter
Member since Aug 2004
33877 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

what companies offer this?

apparently mine? I dont know, this is a whole new thing to me, hence the thread

quote:

However, if you can negotiate an extra form of PTO, shouldn't you be commended for that?


I guess, but this was just sort of presented as "I'm taking the day off for mental health " or something along those lines and there's no consequences

wasnt like this person negotiated anything, just announced it. "This is happening"
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18358 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:42 pm to
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how the frick our society has gotten so damn soft


Leadership of the older generations.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16797 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:42 pm to
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If it really is for a health issue, it will be easy for her to present a doctor's note. Mental or physical.


The viral lady will be able to produce it. Some people cough*OP*cough didn't read the entire story and going off on a story they have no idea what it really was about. The lady has an actual mental health problem.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70178 posts
Posted on 7/12/17 at 1:44 pm to
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this is an all new excused day off that doesnt ding their vacation days, nor their sick days, nor their PTO




and they expect to get paid?
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