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Five Guys, Chic-fil-A, Panera Bread vs. McDonald's, BK, Taco Bell (not food related)

Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:36 am
Posted by Will Cover
St. Louis, MO
Member since Mar 2007
38592 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:36 am
For Five Guys, Chic-fil-A and Panera Bread:

Do you think these restaurants are able to hire better employees due to their "relaxed environment or company culture"?

Or do you think they hire better employees because they do a better job for their will and being able to teach them a skill?

vs. the likes of McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell or Popeye's.

I ask, because I would have to assume that pay is around the same for entry level positions in the fast food / quick service industry.

Thoughts?
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 8:36 am
Posted by poops_at_parties
Member since Jan 2016
1545 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:37 am to
Birds of a feather flock together. Quality attracts quality.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18681 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:38 am to
Higher standards and attention to detail in customer service.
Posted by jdeval1
Member since Dec 2009
7525 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:39 am to
Add Canes to the higher quality employee group. They obviously have good hiring practices for a fast food joint.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
101930 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:40 am to
quote:

Thoughts?


I think in general better management leads to better employees.


I also wouldn't be surprised if some of those places do pay a little above minimum wage to attract a slightly better candidate.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
32727 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:41 am to
I don't know about Panera or Five Guys, but I know at Chick-fil-a the owner has to actually work at the business for a certain number of hours per week. They probably just fire shitty employees.
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 8:42 am
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:43 am to
I was talking to my fiance about this the other day after going to a Chick-fil-a. I think there are numerous reasons.

I think they invest more in their employees because they require more from their employees. The expectations are higher. They treat their employees well and compensate them well. Because of that, they can be more selective because they have a larger pool to choose from. This allows them to hire based on character and potential, not just availability.

There's also a company "culture" aspect. High expectations and standards begin at the corporate level.

This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 9:04 am
Posted by Scooba
Member since Jun 2013
19999 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:45 am to
Their employees are vetted better. I would rather get a new set of dedicated high school employees every 2 years rather than have shite employees that aren't reliable or trustworthy behind a register.

FWIW The popeyes by my office has had the same employees for years, they are very polite and efficient. I've never had an order wrong and them not catch it at the counter before handing it to me.

At the end of the day, it all comes down to management and their desire to work with their employees.
Posted by Bmath
LA
Member since Aug 2010
18681 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:45 am to
All of these places tend to hire high school and college students. Outside of management, these aren't career fast food workers. Education aside, I think that eliminates much of the complacency you see at a McDonalds and the like. They know that this job is only a stepping stone to something on the horizon and not simply a means to an end.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51915 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:46 am to
I think it's more of who they target.

McDonalds doesn't give a frick. They give lip service to employee education, allowing ONE 2500 scholarship award per state.

Chill-fil-A actively targets up and coming college students when in spite of probably paying similarly, they also offer a lot of benefits in scholarships, 30 times more than McD
This post was edited on 6/14/17 at 8:53 am
Posted by pointdog33
Member since Jan 2012
2765 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:48 am to
They actually conduct interviews to gauge the person's qualifications, while the others say fill out a sheet and you're hired.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51381 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:48 am to
I went to Chic-Fil-A the other day. Instead of speaking into the drive thru intercom, they had employees standing outside taking orders and payment through their iPads. It was hot but the employees were happy and polite.

It was wonderful.

That'd never happen at McDonalds.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
72058 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:53 am to
Building a positive culture at the conception of the franchise is key

Some places are in too deep. Decades of bad culture would take mass house cleaning to change. As it stands now, it's going to be a slow process to change your poor customer service places


When you're pulling from a talent pool that's some of the poorest, least educated people in the nation, and paying them minimum or just above minimum wage, it's an uphill battle. You're trying to change an attitude that's been ingrained in them since birth. People's expectations of quick service restaurants are ridiculous - what do you expect out of these people? Either stop eating it or stop bitching if you ask me
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
10999 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:53 am to
quote:

McDonald's, Burger King, Taco Bell or Popeye's.



I remember a time when nice, articulate young professional people worked at these places.


Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28470 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:55 am to
I think it's pretty simple. The first 3 take pride in their customer service and demand the same from their employees. As a result, they don't just hire any broke-dick off the street. The others don't really care who they hire as long as they can dunk french fries and fix a hamburger. They know their usual caliber of employee won't be all that reliable or invested in the job, so they just have to deal with constant turnover as efficiently as they can. Thus, they hire basically anyone off the street.

At least in some locales, McDonald's, BK, etc would be better off going with almost full automation. Quality and efficiency would increase almost 10 fold in many places.
Posted by 7thWardTo314
Member since May 2017
1284 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:57 am to
A good store owner and RGM will turn a shitty Mcdonalds into the holy grail of Mickey D's.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68917 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 8:58 am to
I think the others have been around so long there is a bad stigma working at them. Even hs kids looking for a first job think McDonald's and Popeyes are beneath them.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119479 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:01 am to
Chick Fil A has hiring standards
Posted by BayouBrawl
Junk Yard
Member since Aug 2012
1151 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:04 am to
In the construction industry, I have seen the exact same individuals, working for the exact same company perform much better under different supervision. I would assume it's much the same with the restaurants. Hiring better quality management means that people are willing to do a better job for them. Also, those people who never plan to work know better than to even apply somewhere with a real manager.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
10984 posts
Posted on 6/14/17 at 9:08 am to
In-N-Out and Chik fil a are a cut above the rest. They hire good people and have the right amount of staff for the volume.

Driving through In-N-Out you'll see a small army of staff in the kitchen.
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