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re: My daughter has been asked to take the ACTs/SATs (slight brag)
Posted on 9/17/16 at 11:43 am to theantiquetiger
Posted on 9/17/16 at 11:43 am to theantiquetiger
I really am happy to hear that your daughter is doing well in school and is also apparently great at taking tests (half the battle for some kids).
My personal/professional opinion is to not take it so young. I would hold out at least one more year. It's easy to get caught up in the excitement and good feels of being "asked" to take it, but I personally don't think 7th graders are mature enough to understand that not acing the ACT this time is okay. You'll take her from the high of doing so well on this test to probably scoring around a 17 on the ACT.
With all of that being said, our school requires an 18 in math before a student can take Trig, so if she's on an accelerated path I would give it a try at the end of her 8th grade year.
My personal/professional opinion is to not take it so young. I would hold out at least one more year. It's easy to get caught up in the excitement and good feels of being "asked" to take it, but I personally don't think 7th graders are mature enough to understand that not acing the ACT this time is okay. You'll take her from the high of doing so well on this test to probably scoring around a 17 on the ACT.
With all of that being said, our school requires an 18 in math before a student can take Trig, so if she's on an accelerated path I would give it a try at the end of her 8th grade year.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 11:44 am to Balloon Huffer
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Let her do it, good experience. Corny as it may sound, it will look good on her first resume. When trying to land that first job, any and all experiences help. After she has experience, this will obviously not be important, but again - everything helps when all you have is a piece of paper and no experience.
What employer gives a rats arse about what you did in middle school?
Posted on 9/17/16 at 11:49 am to theantiquetiger
At our school you have to score > 95th percentile on a section of the grade level ACT Aspire test. If she did that to qualify, you have a smart kid and should be proud.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 11:54 am to theantiquetiger
My kid is a daggum signtits
Posted on 9/17/16 at 11:56 am to reginaphilange
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My personal/professional opinion is to not take it so young. I would hold out at least one more year. It's easy to get caught up in the excitement and good feels of being "asked" to take it, but I personally don't think 7th graders are mature enough to understand that not acing the ACT this time is okay. You'll take her from the high of doing so well on this test to probably scoring around a 17 on the ACT.
Isn't this just preparing the child for real life? I was scoring in 98th and 99th percentile on all of my standardized tests until I took the ACT in 7th grade. I got a 21 and I was proud that I scored high enough to contend with people many years older, but at the same time it taught me that I wasn't perfect and I needed to keep going. A 7th grader who qualifies for the Duke program should be smart enough to know they aren't going to get a perfect score on the ACT.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:10 pm to efrad
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Isn't this just preparing the child for real life? I was scoring in 98th and 99th percentile on all of my standardized tests until I took the ACT in 7th grade.
My wife's niece took the ACT in the 8th grade, made a high score, made As throughout high school without much effort, got scholarships, then the real world hit her like a 2x4. She barely made it through her first year at college, she had never needed to study before and didn't know how, she had relied more on memorizing things than understanding them, and she didn't understand that there would be courses that required many hours of just grinding out the work even if was not a intellectual challenge something she had never had to do. She went from thinking she was on the fast track to medical school to a 2.5 gpa education major in two semesters.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:17 pm to magildachunks
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It's the Duke thing?
I took it in 7th grade through that.
It means jack shite.
This. Just means your daughter is smart.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:20 pm to theantiquetiger
Taking it that early doesnt mean squat...
And she will get destroyed.
And she will get destroyed.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:22 pm to theantiquetiger
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She is only 12 years old, in 7th grade.
Is she in a gifted/enrichment program? Ever made any B's on her report card? Ever had her IQ tested?
If she's truly gifted at a level where they want her to take the SATs, she might need to skip a grade. Holding highly intelligent children into a grade with their age group can have negative effects as they enter puberty. They often get bored, which can led to disinterest and getting into trouble. I've seen it first hand, as long as read various studies.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:26 pm to 911Moto
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Told my kid he better nail it, cause we spent all his college money on karate.
Just work a few extra shifts at the glory hole. You'll have the money in no time. And besides, being able to execute a perfect crane kick is way more important. And everybody knows that when think guys who do karate are really cool.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:29 pm to theantiquetiger
I took it as a 7th grader too. shite was hard, I scored a 26 which was good for a 7th grader but meant Jack shite because I took it in high school anyway.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:31 pm to theantiquetiger
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She is only 12 years old, in 7th grade. They took some test at school and she scored the highest in math, now she comes home with an invitation to take one of the ACTs or SATs.
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There is no guarantee that participating in the talent search, even at a high level, will increase your chance for acceptance to Duke University.
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Duke TIP is not directly connected to any college scholarship programs, and there’s no guarantee that participating in the talent search will increase your chances for getting a scholarship for college.
So what the frick is the point?
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:34 pm to MrSpock
Here's the trick:
You can go to any school you want for grad school.
You can go to any school you want for grad school.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 12:35 pm to theantiquetiger
I got shitty grades because i skipped a lot but i got a great sat score. My act was above average.
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Posted on 9/17/16 at 2:32 pm to S
Daughter did it at 12. Got a 26.
It's the same test as she took it with a bunch of high school kids.
It's the same test as she took it with a bunch of high school kids.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 2:40 pm to theantiquetiger
Any kid that's not completely retarded gets asked to take the ACT/SAT in 7th grade.
Exhibit A: this guy
Exhibit A: this guy
Posted on 9/17/16 at 2:43 pm to theantiquetiger
Combination of money scheme with duke and ACT board. But still a great thing to do and help enforce that academics are important.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 2:54 pm to theantiquetiger
I took the SAT at age ten (true story), it was explained to me was a way to get some sense of how far along I was in education rather than just an IQ test. There are kids who are quite bright but don't have the education yet to be ready for college.
For example, there are certain geometry problems that are trivially easy if you know the technique but impossible if you don't. Someone who scores well on an IQ test but never studied Geometry wouldn't do much better than random chance on that section.
For example, there are certain geometry problems that are trivially easy if you know the technique but impossible if you don't. Someone who scores well on an IQ test but never studied Geometry wouldn't do much better than random chance on that section.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 2:56 pm to CCTider
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If she's truly gifted at a level where they want her to take the SATs, she might need to skip a grade. Holding highly intelligent children into a grade with their age group can have negative effects as they enter puberty. They often get bored, which can led to disinterest and getting into trouble. I've seen it first hand, as long as read various studies.
I skipped fifth grade and it worked out great. I spent most of my school years bored beyond belief.
Posted on 9/17/16 at 4:10 pm to efrad
Sure. It can be. I'm speaking in generalities of course, but only a parent can know their child's ability in handling it one way or the other.
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