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re: Why Summer jobs don't pay for school
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:21 pm to kingbob
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:21 pm to kingbob
The math classes kicked my arse for comp sci, but after that it was pretty easy. But I also started programming when I was 7 years old.
the early philosophy classes were easy, but not the 4000 level ones. they were much harder than the 4000 level comp sci classes. Although if you didn't fail the 4000 level phil classes, you got an A so that padded my GPA.
also took me 4 years for the philosophy degree, but 4.5 for comp sci. And my parents threw me $100/month.
the early philosophy classes were easy, but not the 4000 level ones. they were much harder than the 4000 level comp sci classes. Although if you didn't fail the 4000 level phil classes, you got an A so that padded my GPA.
also took me 4 years for the philosophy degree, but 4.5 for comp sci. And my parents threw me $100/month.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 3:23 pm
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:24 pm to Hawkeye95
I got my arse handed to me in the one computer science class I took at LSU, so I know how tough they can be. Giving one an A just for passing is stupid, though. Definitely contributes to the meme that philosophy is a joke degree even if it is a fascinating and rewarding topic to study and explore.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:24 pm to Hawkeye95
Not one Old Economy Steve meme?
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:25 pm to Tigers_Saints
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How much were you getting paid?
$8-$9/hour
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that is $9,120/year to live off of.
seems about right
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Rent alone at just $400/month is going to take out half
my rent was $100/month my senior year
we lived in a shithole
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:31 pm to Martini
There are degrees of Summer jobs.
In the 70's Lafayette oil patch, guys would go offshore for six months, go to school for two or three semesters, then do another tour offshore. If you had connections and could get on a rig for just a few months at a time, so much the better.
In the 70's Lafayette oil patch, guys would go offshore for six months, go to school for two or three semesters, then do another tour offshore. If you had connections and could get on a rig for just a few months at a time, so much the better.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I'm a bit skeptical of that.
Went to undergrad in CA from 75-79. Tuition was free for CA residents, rent was $60 per month (4 of us in 2 bedroom apt.) food was $40 per month and all other incidentals was $100 per month. I put myself through school working minimum wage (about $1.50 per hour back then, I think). No n loans, no family help. Can't do that today.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:46 pm to Martini
Summer is for going out west and rock climbing or chilling in Telluride. Give the kid $1000 and tell em to go have fun. Sleep in a tent and don't work, or work and get a place with friends. Better be back for school.
My parents were awesome, probably why I went to college for 8 years.
My parents were awesome, probably why I went to college for 8 years.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:51 pm to Martini
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Well considering I believe minimum wage was around $2.50-$3.00 an hour and ten bucks was a good night waiting tables in 76' I wasn't setting the world on fire with spending money.
But the cost of living in 1976 was much more on pace with inflation right?
I was just looking at this and in 30 years the price has gone up well past inflation.
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Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:53 pm to Salmon
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oops forgot the "ago"
I was wondering the same thing.Posted on 7/26/16 at 3:56 pm to Martini
I had a couple of summer jobs that paid for my rent for most of the year. Still had to work restaurant/internships/student jobs to pay for groceries, insurance, and booze.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:00 pm to Martini
I got lucky 1 summer and got a job at Libbey Glass in S'port. They hired employee's kids who were in college to fill in for full-time employees out on vacation and such.
The pay was around $12/hour depending on which shift you worked and the level of job worked. That was pretty damn good when minimum wage was around $4. Anyway, I probably averaged 40-60 hours a week and that paid for my whole next year of school at LSU.
The pay was around $12/hour depending on which shift you worked and the level of job worked. That was pretty damn good when minimum wage was around $4. Anyway, I probably averaged 40-60 hours a week and that paid for my whole next year of school at LSU.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:02 pm to hillcountrywanderer
not in today's environment...
my summer job basically paid for my tuition and books, the GI bill paid for my living expenses
didn't know how good I had it at LSU until I went back to school 10 years later at Penn State and had major sticker shock...the GI bill paid most of the house note and my Army Reserve billet paid the rest, tuition and books came out of savings. that was a 1000% increase of the approximate 165- a semester I paid at LSU and textbook costs had increased exponentially as well...
my summer job basically paid for my tuition and books, the GI bill paid for my living expenses
didn't know how good I had it at LSU until I went back to school 10 years later at Penn State and had major sticker shock...the GI bill paid most of the house note and my Army Reserve billet paid the rest, tuition and books came out of savings. that was a 1000% increase of the approximate 165- a semester I paid at LSU and textbook costs had increased exponentially as well...
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:05 pm to Martini
Summer jobs for me was an insurance. Without TOPS, I would of likely had to take way more debt or lived with my parents. The summer jobs paid my big expenses. I took out one loan for $4500 my last summer because it took me a little longer than 8 semesters to graduate. I graduated in 07.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:17 pm to kingbob
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Giving one an A just for passing is stupid, though.
I would say in every 4000 class you would have a lot of drops and a few fails.
People thought they would be a joke then get in and see that they had to read 5 pretty dense books, and write 2-3 20 page papers.
None of the comp sci classes kicked my arse. They were all relatively easy, at least to me.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:23 pm to Salmon
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Of course, for that summer job I was working 90-100 hour weeks without a day off for 3 months
This post is the key factor. Most people need to work at least 80 hours a week for minimum wage to cover the costs of your average state school.
Most summer jobs do not allow this kind of work period. The majority dont even want to do 40 hour a week which is the standard.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:26 pm to volod
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Most summer jobs do not allow this kind of work period. The majority dont even want to do 40 hour a week which is the standard.
It's not just summer jobs anymore. A lot of lower-end, entry-level jobs are staying around 20 hours to avoid companies having to pay out benefits.
This post was edited on 7/26/16 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:53 pm to BluegrassBelle
Every job I've ever worked at in college absolutely does not allow someone to get even close to 40. If you're close they cut you off for the week.
Posted on 7/26/16 at 4:59 pm to PairofDucks
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Member since Jul 2016
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PairofDucks
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It must have been hard for you to study with a sore arse all the time.
you've come in strong with the OT spirit. Are you an alter??????
either way, welcome, now GTFO, KYS, DIAF
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:03 pm to vidtiger23
You have Dept of Labor regs and Obamacare to thank for that
Posted on 7/26/16 at 5:08 pm to vidtiger23
I used to work 60-80 not getting paid OT or having extra days off. Kids these days have it too easy.
I am glad that book prices have pretty much stayed the same since I first went to college in 02. Still a significant cost, but haven't changed much at all
I am glad that book prices have pretty much stayed the same since I first went to college in 02. Still a significant cost, but haven't changed much at all
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