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How can Navy build a good football team but not Army?

Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:15 am
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:15 am
Do they not have the same service requirements? Is it easier to get into the Naval Academy than West Point?


Maybe this is a dumb question but I'm just kind of curious.
Posted by gobuxgo5
Member since Nov 2012
10033 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:17 am to
My assumption coming out of high school is that if I joined Navy there was less of a chance I was going directly to Iraq or Afghanistan to fight the Saudi Hijackers. I would have chosen Navy but I could have been wrong.
Posted by RollTide1987
Augusta, GA
Member since Nov 2009
65147 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:18 am to
A quick google search reveals the following:

- West Point is a Slightly Larger School: (4,591 vs. 4,526 Total Students)
- Navy is Slightly More Difficult to Get In: (7.4% vs. 9.0% Acceptance Rate)
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
16491 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:18 am to
It probably comes down to some of the better guys would prefer to be pilots or shipboard for their service versus grunts. The entrance requirements for all the academies is the same I believe.

And Navy's dress uniforms are much cooler
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84069 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:19 am to
I think Navy is harder to get into.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:20 am to
Id assume less chance of ground combat plus a offense that just works better with smaller guys
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
33992 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:20 am to
I'll give you the same answer that I give whenever people ask why certain tradition-rich programs are struggling: Coaching.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67777 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:21 am to
The Army usually takes 3-4 times the casualties the navy takes

to be fair, the Naval Academy also feeds into the marines i believe.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76651 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:21 am to
You can't start trash talking until game week.

This is poor form.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
Member since Oct 2011
16130 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:25 am to
Paul Johnson and the current coach implemented a system and have stuck with it.

Air Force has been good.

Army is the outlier. They need to find a system and stick to it.
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
11789 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:28 am to
West Point's honor code is a lot harder to live by, but does qualify you to be governor easier than Navy's.

Seriously though, I've wondered the same thing. Air Force even fields some teams that win bowls every couple of years, appears to just be Army that struggles out of the three.
Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6106 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:30 am to
Much less military rigor, discipline and more room at Navy.
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17129 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 11:37 am to
Youth being indoctrinated by An Officer and a Gentleman repeats on AMC.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45337 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 12:00 pm to
Don't hold me to this but I am pretty sure that Annapolis is a little more lax in the military weight standards than West Point. Seems that I remember reading about this a number of years ago.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30676 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 12:06 pm to
The difference is front line or away from major combat. Most people would prefer positions away from major combat, which the Navy specializes in. Navy would be my first choice if I went into the military
Posted by Jalbow3
Trussville
Member since Oct 2008
4079 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 2:32 pm to
As of right now, because Army doesn't have Ken Niumatalolo.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31085 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 4:16 pm to
Don't ask, don't tell also applies to service academy football coaching techniques and secrets.
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 4:23 pm to
Navy's Athletic Foundation also privately funds their teams. They have the biggest budget of the three schools.
Posted by The Quiet One
Former United States
Member since Oct 2013
11608 posts
Posted on 11/27/15 at 4:26 pm to
During my time, any time we had inter-service sports (football, softball, whatever), the Navy and Air Force teams typically kicked the shite out of the Army and Marines. Yeah, yeah....this ain't intramurals brother.

Posted by chesty
Flap City C.C.
Member since Oct 2012
12731 posts
Posted on 11/28/15 at 12:20 am to
United States Marine Corps... You're welcome
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