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How much of what we're seeing now is directly because of F-35?
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:18 pm
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:18 pm
The most expensive weapons system of all time. Will cost us close to $2 trillion before it is entirely replaced with unmanned AI controlled fighter bombers.
In 2016 Isreal began probing Iranian supplied air defense systems in Syria using F-35 SEAD pods. There was no respinse or indication the air defense batteries knew F-35 was there.
In 2018 Israel used F-35 to destroy Syria's air defense systems. It was the first combat use of F-35. Everything apparently worked like a charm.
In 2024 Israel began dismantling Iranian air defense systems inside Iran itself.
In 2025 Israeli pilots went all the way to downtown Tehran, posting selfies of themselves over the city at night. This paved the way for even conventional non stealth aircraft such as F-15 and F-16 to operate with impunity over the country..
Iran was defenseless.
In 2026 the US unleashed F-35 against Venezuela allowing US helicopters to penetrate Caracas and snatch its president from a heavily defended air force base.
It seems to me that the pace of enforcing our will on other countries is directly tied to the growing confidence in this one weapons system. Russia and China simply do not have anything to stop it. Either in an air to air, or air to ground role.
Cuba is now talking about total capitulation because it has no chance of fighting back. And no allies willing to come to its aid.
How far will we take it? What can this one weapons system allow us to do? How long will we have to press this advantage before Russia or China exports a technology that checks it?
What is a comparable technology that made one nation essentially invulnerable to another? The long bow? The three deck man o war? The horse?
In 2016 Isreal began probing Iranian supplied air defense systems in Syria using F-35 SEAD pods. There was no respinse or indication the air defense batteries knew F-35 was there.
In 2018 Israel used F-35 to destroy Syria's air defense systems. It was the first combat use of F-35. Everything apparently worked like a charm.
In 2024 Israel began dismantling Iranian air defense systems inside Iran itself.
In 2025 Israeli pilots went all the way to downtown Tehran, posting selfies of themselves over the city at night. This paved the way for even conventional non stealth aircraft such as F-15 and F-16 to operate with impunity over the country..
Iran was defenseless.
In 2026 the US unleashed F-35 against Venezuela allowing US helicopters to penetrate Caracas and snatch its president from a heavily defended air force base.
It seems to me that the pace of enforcing our will on other countries is directly tied to the growing confidence in this one weapons system. Russia and China simply do not have anything to stop it. Either in an air to air, or air to ground role.
Cuba is now talking about total capitulation because it has no chance of fighting back. And no allies willing to come to its aid.
How far will we take it? What can this one weapons system allow us to do? How long will we have to press this advantage before Russia or China exports a technology that checks it?
What is a comparable technology that made one nation essentially invulnerable to another? The long bow? The three deck man o war? The horse?
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Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:40 pm to No Colors
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In 2026 the US unleashed F-35 against Venezuela allowing US helicopters to penetrate Caracas and snatch its president from a heavily defended air force base.
Something interesting I noticed with Jesse Watters - he said that Delcy was working with the US months in advance of the raid on Maduro’s compound. Hadn’t known that until today.
Notice how quick she was to get rid of Maduro’s guys?
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:46 pm to No Colors
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What is a comparable technology that made one nation essentially invulnerable to another?
Greek fire. Stirrups. Some others like chariots, but those two were the longest lasting game changing military tech.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:50 pm to No Colors
It’s still our tech but the F-22’s are the best and most advanced aircraft ever made.
Posted on 2/28/26 at 11:57 pm to No Colors
It’s not just 5th generation aircraft and even 6th now. It’s the insanely cool and dispersed in purpose drones like the MQ9 which can conduct cyber warfare operations to include jamming radar or anything else cyber related while having the ability to maintain flight times of 36 hours while also being armed with hellfires and also if needed or wanted JDAMS but that reduces the flight time to around 24 hours due to weight.
Then you have the seamless tie into our navy from all of these extremely impressive aircraft and various warships using the AEGIS system, named after Zeus Shield in Greek mythology, that allows all of these various systems and weapons platforms, ISR gathering resources, etc to feed all of that to one another in real time for target acquisition or defensive action if needed that makes no country in the worlds airspace really off limits to us if we are inclined to enter it
Then you have the seamless tie into our navy from all of these extremely impressive aircraft and various warships using the AEGIS system, named after Zeus Shield in Greek mythology, that allows all of these various systems and weapons platforms, ISR gathering resources, etc to feed all of that to one another in real time for target acquisition or defensive action if needed that makes no country in the worlds airspace really off limits to us if we are inclined to enter it
Posted on 3/1/26 at 12:05 am to No Colors
Saw something a little while ago saying F-35's took down Mig 29's today.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 12:05 am to No Colors
Our EA18 Growlers are the backbone of the US Electronic Warfare aircrafts. Im sure there ate F35s with the same EW capabilities to create "air corridors"where others can follow them in undetected, but our Growlers have been jamming and spoofing enemy air defenses for a long arse time.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 12:11 am to RollingwiththeTide
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but the F-22’s are the best and most advanced aircraft ever made.
No.
OP is on the right track. The F-35’s dominance combined with other intelligence nodes means full spectrum dominance.
ETA: and what the above poster said about the growlers. Unsung heroes.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 12:13 am
Posted on 3/1/26 at 12:12 am to IAmNERD
Indeed the growlers are very important and impressive
As you said they establish air corridors for fighter aircraft to follow directly behind and through them while essentially being completely blind to any known radar or detection systems any of our adversaries possess
As you said they establish air corridors for fighter aircraft to follow directly behind and through them while essentially being completely blind to any known radar or detection systems any of our adversaries possess
Posted on 3/1/26 at 12:32 am to No Colors
Well, if I were are true, intelligent Jihadi and already had military assets posing as civilians in place, thanks to the Dems open Border, I’d have trained them to independently but concurrently hit (at a given signal) those big Transformer Stations in Urban areas with simple and common large caliber weaponry. I think I remember some such attack up in North Carolina a couple years ago. Dirty bombs in major water reservoirs as well with drone based distribution of Anthrax would liven the party.
And given that I’m a 75 year old Lazy Boy military strategist lightweight I’m sure the pros are much more creative. What is required for such a gloves off strategy to be employed would be that the suicidal, martyrdom based Iranian Mullahs version realize that their given strategy of acquiring nukes to fight their hated enemies is a sure losing proposition. This apparently has been proven on the international stage as the F-35 changed the strategic dynamics. Only sophisticated Subs would be invulnerable to preemptive attacks.
Or maybe given that half the Iranian people and Muslims worldwide are sick of Islamic Jihad, so the fanatics just let it go. And hegemonic Islam moves further ahead with the very successful, ‘peaceful’ immigration version of Islamification.
It bugs me that scriptural prophecy says that when they “say peace, peace…sudden destruction cometh “. Maybe it’s just paranoia via too much weed back in the old days. I pray for peace but our true ‘enemy’ is within.
And given that I’m a 75 year old Lazy Boy military strategist lightweight I’m sure the pros are much more creative. What is required for such a gloves off strategy to be employed would be that the suicidal, martyrdom based Iranian Mullahs version realize that their given strategy of acquiring nukes to fight their hated enemies is a sure losing proposition. This apparently has been proven on the international stage as the F-35 changed the strategic dynamics. Only sophisticated Subs would be invulnerable to preemptive attacks.
Or maybe given that half the Iranian people and Muslims worldwide are sick of Islamic Jihad, so the fanatics just let it go. And hegemonic Islam moves further ahead with the very successful, ‘peaceful’ immigration version of Islamification.
It bugs me that scriptural prophecy says that when they “say peace, peace…sudden destruction cometh “. Maybe it’s just paranoia via too much weed back in the old days. I pray for peace but our true ‘enemy’ is within.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 2:27 am to rmnldr
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other intelligence nodes
The seamless integration of all the detection/tracking that can be done by all kinds of platforms, sending data to E-3s, Aegis equipped warships, disseminating it out to every platform in the battle space is awesome.
I just wish we were testing out (if Israel didn't already) the F15EX. I guess the Iranians haven't gotten much up in the air to shoot at, though.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 4:45 am to rmnldr
The 22 is far superior to the 35.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 4:53 am to No Colors
The F-35 is a tremendous platform, no doubt.
However, for me, the defining question is...
How much of what we're seeing now is directly because of Israeli intelligence?
This is the definitive decider so far in this war.
However, for me, the defining question is...
How much of what we're seeing now is directly because of Israeli intelligence?
This is the definitive decider so far in this war.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 4:56 am to UcobiaA
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Stirrups
Was about to post this. Stirrups provided a platform to stand in the saddle and swing your weapon with your full body mass behind it. They took horsemen from predominantly recon to the decisive force that they would remain for centuries. The Mongol and Ottoman horsebows were a big development, too. Small but the layered composite construction made them far more powerful than the vaunted English longbow. The Patterson Colt, too.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 4:59 am
Posted on 3/1/26 at 5:44 am to RCDfan1950
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Dirty bombs in major water reservoirs as well with drone based distribution of Anthrax would liven the party.
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hit (at a given signal) those big Transformer Stations in Urban areas with simple and common large caliber weaponry.
are some of my fears that haunt my twilight hours.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:13 am to No Colors
It's ironic because the F-35 was for so long widely criticized as a massive failure: an enormously expensive and largely ineffective weapons system plagued with operational issues.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:15 am to RollingwiththeTide
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It’s still our tech but the F-22’s are the best and most advanced aircraft ever made.
Amazing that they apparently never even pulled these birds out.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:18 am to Epaminondas
You can shite on the US MIC all you want, but compared to anybody else it’s not even close.
Yes, the F-35 is great.
But as said it really takes:
1.) great intel provided by Israel
2.) great technology provided by US
3.) great training provided by US
4.) fantastic operations, logistics, and execution by US and Israel
Even if another country like Russia or China has similar tech, they still have to have training, operations, logistics, and execution to carry it out. It’s clear they aren’t close in those regards
Yes, the F-35 is great.
But as said it really takes:
1.) great intel provided by Israel
2.) great technology provided by US
3.) great training provided by US
4.) fantastic operations, logistics, and execution by US and Israel
Even if another country like Russia or China has similar tech, they still have to have training, operations, logistics, and execution to carry it out. It’s clear they aren’t close in those regards
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:21 am to baldona
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You can shite on the US MIC all you want, but compared to anybody else it’s not even close. Yes, the F-35 is great. But as said it really takes: 1.) great intel provided by Israel 2.) great technology provided by US 3.) great training provided by US 4.) fantastic operations, logistics, and execution by US and Israel Even if another country like Russia or China has similar tech, they still have to have training, operations, logistics, and execution to carry it out. It’s clear they aren’t close in those regards
The unsung heroes of this war are the cargo and aerial refueling planes and their crews. They, quite literally, did the heavy lifting.
Posted on 3/1/26 at 6:22 am to No Colors
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What is a comparable technology that made one nation essentially invulnerable to another? The long bow? The three deck man o war? The horse?
Big rock.
pointed stick.
sharp rock on a stick.
Weaponizing gunpowder.
Machine gun.
A-Bomb.
This post was edited on 3/1/26 at 6:23 am
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