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Rep. Randy Fine will introduce legislation to hold judges ACCOUNTABLE

Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:46 am
Posted by Major Dutch Schaefer
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:46 am
Posted by Septiger
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:48 am to
Should have been done long ago .
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:52 am to
Good.

I'm curious to see what this looks like. Something definitely needs to change.

ETA... need to do something about prosecutors as well.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 7:55 am
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 7:52 am to
I agree with the sentiment but what does the proposed legislation say? Need to understand a few more specifics before I can say I totally agree.
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:05 am to
Give them a nice "3 strikes" law. If, during their time as a federal judge (despite which level or location), there are three instances where someone with a documented history of committing violent crimes is let out on no (or low) bail, they are automatically removed from the bench, are ineligible for any federal job for the rest of their life - which includes direct employment, contract work as well as even working with nor for a company with a federal contract.
Posted by supadave3
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:10 am to
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I agree with the sentiment but what does the proposed legislation say? Need to understand a few more specifics before I can say I totally agree.


This is where my thoughts are at. I’d love to see the judges held accountable but how do you do that legislative wise?

You’ll have to increase minimum sentencing guidelines to take the power and therefore, the accountability out of the judges hands.


Violent offense = no cash bail or very high cash bail. That’s the only way that I see this occurring and that’s probably not going to happen. This restorative Justice movement needs to be squashed.
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 8:11 am
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:11 am to
Nice sentiment, but were any FEDERAL judges involved in the Charlotte disgusting situation?

I appreciate the thought, but hate the grandstanding off of a young woman's murder.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:13 am to
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I appreciate the thought, but hate the grandstanding off of a young woman's murder.


How many young women, in your opinion, need to die before it is no longer "grandstanding"?
Posted by TIGA 80
Larose
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:19 am to
Not only should the judges be responsible for releasing repeat offenders, but when federal and state judges get their rulings overturned in appeals court and the supreme court so many times, there needs to also be accountability. Purposely going against precedent and case law should result in forcible resignation.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:22 am to
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How many young women, in your opinion, need to die before it is no longer "grandstanding"?


It's not the number...of course ONE murder is too many. The grandstanding is a Congress critter drafting legislation that would have had ZERO effect in preventing this tragedy.

The reference to "the judges who contributed to her murder need to be held accountable" is just red meat for low information consumers. I know the Constitution doesn't matter to some people, but Congress has only the power given to it through the Constitution. That doesn't include regulating state court judges.

ETA: Also, I get cranky about getting our information from X on this Board. It's always superficial. What does the proposed legislation say? What's the Constitutional basis?
This post was edited on 9/8/25 at 8:28 am
Posted by scottydoesntknow
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:23 am to
Our high trust society principles dont work in the clown world society we live in
Posted by GeauxBurrow312
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:26 am to
Broken clock right twice a day

Nice job Randy
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:27 am to
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Broken clock right twice a day Nice job Randy


Yeah, he’s still an evil genocidal fat fricking turd of a human being, but real life Peter Griffin has finally done something good.
Posted by SidetrackSilvera
Member since Nov 2012
2660 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:30 am to
This is not a good idea. You cannot hold judges, or anyone else, civilly or criminally liable for the acts of someone else. There is a mechanism for replacing underperforming judges; it's called voting their arse out. Trial level judges have a review process administered by the appellate court. Inform the voting public when you actually contribute to campaigns to oppose the underperforming judges. For federal judges, you'd have to impeach, but if you keep making these stories public, enough political pressure can be exerted to force that, too. Feds don't get impeached unless they're taking money or fricking hookers and doing blow, but you can change that. But I'm not charging a judge who follows the law available to them and releases a scumbag, even over and over. You want minimum sentences for violent crimes? Sure, I'll vote for that. Again, send some money to the prosecutors' offices and staff them up with competent people who will actually try a case. Waive law school student loans to get them in place. Someone found $18MM to staff up our defensive backfield. No one wants to pay for prosecutions. When the public gets their head out of their arse, this kind of thing may start to go the right way.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:32 am to
So more federal power expansion and erosion of states' rights?
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:32 am to
Charge the judge with murder. It's her fault it happened - let her serve the time too.

These judges need their names on billboards. Let's make sure the world knows who they are. Just another thing I'll have to do once I'm a billionaire.
Posted by FLTech
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:36 am to
“I don’t see them doing this when it’s blacks that get killed. They only protect their own”

Signed,

MSNBC and CNN
Posted by crimsonuatide
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 9/8/25 at 8:46 am to
Burn them on the same stake.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
10260 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:01 am to
quote:

This is not a good idea. You cannot hold judges, or anyone else, civilly or criminally liable for the acts of someone else. There is a mechanism for replacing underperforming judges; it's called voting their arse out. Trial level judges have a review process administered by the appellate court. Inform the voting public when you actually contribute to campaigns to oppose the underperforming judges. For federal judges, you'd have to impeach, but if you keep making these stories public, enough political pressure can be exerted to force that, too. Feds don't get impeached unless they're taking money or fricking hookers and doing blow, but you can change that. But I'm not charging a judge who follows the law available to them and releases a scumbag, even over and over. You want minimum sentences for violent crimes? Sure, I'll vote for that. Again, send some money to the prosecutors' offices and staff them up with competent people who will actually try a case. Waive law school student loans to get them in place. Someone found $18MM to staff up our defensive backfield. No one wants to pay for prosecutions. When the public gets their head out of their arse, this kind of thing may start to go the right way.


If we lived in a world where this would work, we wouldn't need the law in the first place.

This goes back to the founding of our country. Your solution relies on democracy to work. Our Founders rejected democracy for a republic. Many people in democrat shitholes vote for these terrible judges. The victims do not always vote for letting violent criminals out to commit more crimes. This law helps protect the minority of good citizens in these cities.

Your solution leads to the tyranny of the majority we are currently seeing in blue cities, which is what our government was designed to prevent.

Cops lose their immunity when they make egregious mistakes. Judges should too.
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
67332 posts
Posted on 9/8/25 at 9:04 am to
This is a situation where the “slippery slope” argument applies. Judges can’t do their jobs if they have to worry that their decisions may be unpopular.
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