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Best Deer Drive Firearm?
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:07 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:07 am
Ive only ever still hunted from box stand, tree stand, etc...I am being invited to hunt ahead of some dogs for my first deer drive hunt ever. Looking for what the OB choice of firearm is here is here! (it also gives me an excuse to buy something new)
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:10 am to Roux57
Shotgun was king back in the day
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:11 am to Roux57
12 gauge 3" magnum shells with 00 buckshot
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:27 am to Roux57
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(it also gives me an excuse to buy something new)
speaking of excuses, you'll need to make sure to practice yours.
"Them dogs can't read maps"
"I shot it over there, I'm just recovering it over here"
"I just saw brown and thought it was a deer"
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:32 am to Roux57
The truth is you can take any gun you want. More deer are killed slipping away slowly by standers well away from the chase, so the shot opportunity isn’t much different from a still hunt.
Most folks will be toting a 12ga with 00 buck or something like a browning BAR with a lower power optic. A shorter barreled semi auto in 308 is probably gonna cover any shot you’re likely to encounter. Back in the day it was A5s and Remington jam masters, now I’m sure of the dog hunters left plently carry ARs.
Most folks will be toting a 12ga with 00 buck or something like a browning BAR with a lower power optic. A shorter barreled semi auto in 308 is probably gonna cover any shot you’re likely to encounter. Back in the day it was A5s and Remington jam masters, now I’m sure of the dog hunters left plently carry ARs.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:36 am to Roux57
Whatever you've already got. I've dragged a 26" barreled 3-15x scoped bazooka through some very thick and nasty shite many times and it wasn't a problem.
Oh, well in that case, Marlin 336 was always the standard rifle for us back in the day, mostly .30-30's with some .35's mixed in. Remington 7600 was also very popular but difficult to find these days and overpriced when you do. I always liked my .30-30 for driving dogs since I would be walking a few miles and it carries so nice.
Buckshot can be a good choice. It's definitely safer than a rifle when there are a lot of people in the woods, but if there's stuff going on that seems maybe a little unsafe I wouldn't be hunting with those people anyway. Federal flite control buckshot shoots incredibly well. I know someone who killed a deer over 100 yards away with buckshot once but it's best to limit yourself to 40 yards with it. A rifle, any rifle, really is better.
If you don't already have a single shot .35 whelen, now's a good time to get one. I shot a lot of deer more than once just because I could but they were all going to die very near where the first shot was anyway. I've only shot one that was running the first shot, and it was more trotting than running, not fast at all. The deer are never really running very fast and the need to be able to shoot quickly is largely imaginary. I never killed any of the deer I killed on a dog hunt because I had a repeating rifle. I would have killed zero fewer deer with a single shot rifle. If you can't hit it well on the first shot, you certainly aren't going to be able to hit it well on the subsequent ones. If you're going to miss, just don't shoot.
What makes a good dog hunting rifle is the scope. With the new excellent LPVO's out there now (1-4x and 1-6x), that's absolutely what I would get. At 1x they are just a red dot sight, and 4x is plenty enough for shooting deer to 200 or 300 yards. They're extremely versatile. Peep sights can be very good too, but they are only as good as your eyeballs. I always used a 2-7x scope because that's what I had but if I had to start over today, I'd get a 1-4x trijicon accupoint.
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gives me an excuse to buy something new
Oh, well in that case, Marlin 336 was always the standard rifle for us back in the day, mostly .30-30's with some .35's mixed in. Remington 7600 was also very popular but difficult to find these days and overpriced when you do. I always liked my .30-30 for driving dogs since I would be walking a few miles and it carries so nice.
Buckshot can be a good choice. It's definitely safer than a rifle when there are a lot of people in the woods, but if there's stuff going on that seems maybe a little unsafe I wouldn't be hunting with those people anyway. Federal flite control buckshot shoots incredibly well. I know someone who killed a deer over 100 yards away with buckshot once but it's best to limit yourself to 40 yards with it. A rifle, any rifle, really is better.
If you don't already have a single shot .35 whelen, now's a good time to get one. I shot a lot of deer more than once just because I could but they were all going to die very near where the first shot was anyway. I've only shot one that was running the first shot, and it was more trotting than running, not fast at all. The deer are never really running very fast and the need to be able to shoot quickly is largely imaginary. I never killed any of the deer I killed on a dog hunt because I had a repeating rifle. I would have killed zero fewer deer with a single shot rifle. If you can't hit it well on the first shot, you certainly aren't going to be able to hit it well on the subsequent ones. If you're going to miss, just don't shoot.
What makes a good dog hunting rifle is the scope. With the new excellent LPVO's out there now (1-4x and 1-6x), that's absolutely what I would get. At 1x they are just a red dot sight, and 4x is plenty enough for shooting deer to 200 or 300 yards. They're extremely versatile. Peep sights can be very good too, but they are only as good as your eyeballs. I always used a 2-7x scope because that's what I had but if I had to start over today, I'd get a 1-4x trijicon accupoint.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:07 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Be careful- not a safe way to hunt deer.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:20 am to mikeytig
My family did it for as long as anybody knows, and nobody knows of a single accident.
Like all things involving guns, it is only dangerous if there are stupid people involved.
Like all things involving guns, it is only dangerous if there are stupid people involved.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:22 am to Roux57
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am being invited to hunt ahead of some dogs for my first deer drive hunt ever
A red Ryder should be perfect for you, they gonna put you in spot that the deer never go.
Just kidding kind of. Is it walkers or beagle? If walkers I would get a browning BAR in 308 with low power variable scope with a lit aiming point.
If beagles just use your regular rifle cus they will be slipping out not stretched out.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:01 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Marlin 336 was always the standard rifle for us back in the day, mostly .30-30's
Agreed. 30-30 lever action with iron sites should do the trick
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:11 am to Koolazzkat
I always wanted a .450 bushmaster or .458 Socom. Op has a good excuse to get one...
AR's are just awkward to hunt with when a bunch of walking is involved unless you want to carry it like you are cosplaying zero dark thirty.
AR's are just awkward to hunt with when a bunch of walking is involved unless you want to carry it like you are cosplaying zero dark thirty.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:24 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
As a lad I started with a 20ga with a slug (bear ball as pow pow called it) in the chamber then two 00's coming hot afterwards. Then it was a Win 30.30 lever action. Then my favorite, a M1 .30 carbine. Pops ended up trading it on a jam-o-matic Rem Woodsmaster 742 .06. That thing was a colossal piece of shite that i cussed for a few years. Then suddenly the dog hunting days came to a halt and I was relegated to sitting on a ladder stand, or a stump, with no hounds to listen to and nothing to make the deer run by me. Which in comparison is an awful way to hunt. #teamwalkerdog 
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:30 am to Roux57
Ask whoever invited you. We only use shotguns in my club. I use a SBE 2 with 3.5” Winchester double x.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:31 am to Roux57
I always used a marlin 30-30 with open sights. we had an 8pt or > rule. the bucks would slip off from the herd and were usually walking when I was able to get a shot
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:34 am to Roux57
Straight pull bolt gun in a .30-06, .35 whelen, or 9.3x62 shooting heavy for caliber bullets w/ a red dot. It's what the Europeans do. They are the driven hunt experts.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:50 am to Roux57
Tell your friends to keep their dogs off my property!!
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:28 am to Roux57
Can not go wrong with a PSE Stinger
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:33 am to WillFerrellisking
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Tell your friends to keep their dogs off my property!!
The old OB wouldn't even bother making a statement about keeping the dogs off their property.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:36 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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unless you want to carry it like you are cosplaying zero dark thirty.
is this not ok? Asking for a friend
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