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We've been the baddies for several generations

Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:57 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 2:57 am
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:02 am to

We are a criminal enterprise in direct competition with other criminal enterprises.

I say we are the funnest one of the bunch.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:03 am to
A lot of the problems in the world can still be traced back to the British empire. We've essentially taken their place but aren't nearly as bad because we aren't trying to colonize and frick up everything around the world. There isn't much if anything from a foreign policy perspective that we've done well since WW2. Almost everything we touch turns to shite and doesn't benefit us at all. It's pretty impressive that we've managed to preserve while wasting so much capital in these fraudulent endeavors.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
32465 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:06 am to
Moscow Winston
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:06 am to
So by installing the shah, we were actually ousting him from power. Interesting tactic
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62021 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:36 am to
We are always propping up one regime to take the place of another we had propped up who is no longer doing our bidding.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:59 am to
Remember the "Green Revolution", when Obama let a perfect opportunity to support the Iranian people go to waste. IMHO

Al little walk down memory lane.

TIME’s People Who Mattered 2009

Neda Agha-Soltan


We’ll never know the man who stood in front of those tanks in Tiananmen Square, but we do know Neda Agha-Soltan: we’ve looked into her eyes. For one gut-wrenching moment, as she lay dying from the bullet in her heart on that Tehran side street last June, Neda stared directly into the cell phone that was about to immortalize her. Within hours, millions of people around the world had been beseeched by those fading eyes, making an intimate connection with the 27-year-old music student and the cause for which she was killed by the thugs of an embattled regime. Before Neda’s murder, the street protests against Iran’s stolen election had been a revolution without a face, doomed to be crushed by brute authority and eventually forgotten. But Neda’s dying gaze drew the eyes of the world. We can neither look away nor forget.

LINK
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
20956 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:08 am to
I don't understand why the Brits don't get more shite for the state of the middle east generally, and Iran specifically. British Petroleum so totally fricked the Iranians over that Mossadegh nationalized the oil industry and they basically needed the CIA to overthrow him and install the shah to get it back.

You're 100% right that most modern issues can be traced back to the Brits. I don't know why they don't get more shite for fricking everything up. I guess it's because they're now totally irrelevant.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
12637 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:11 am to
Take your meds…
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14434 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:19 am to
So you are agree with Illian Omar…..
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:22 am to
quote:

don't understand why the Brits don't get more shite for the state of the middle east generally


They give themselves shite. The leftist retards over there feel so much guilt over the perceived injustices they’ve committed. Not that they shouldn’t feel some guilt, but not to the point they open their borders to their old colonies. That’s why they’ve allowed themselves to be overrun by third world trash.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467629 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:24 am to
quote:

I don't understand why the Brits don't get more shite for the state of the middle east generally, and Iran specifically.


Well they do, but not on these channels. Discussing colonialism and its effects is primarily a Leftist endeavor.

It's discussed plenty in universities promoting various leftist-socialist ideologies.

In face, in a fit of irony, the reason the "Democratically elected" leader of Iran was ousted was due to its Marxist-socialist policies (remember this was prime Cold War time)

Today in international conflicts we're typically dealing with the fallout of colonialism mixed in with Cold War policies. In the Middle East, radical Islam took a major role after the fall of the Shah in 1979

Iran is a cross section of all 3 of these factors.
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21520 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:25 am to
So?

We're the Empire mf'er.
Posted by jlnoles79
Member since Jan 2014
14271 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:27 am to
quote:

We've been the baddies for several generations



Says the biggest Putin cheerleader on this board

Posted by Rip Torn
Member since Mar 2020
6004 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:35 am to
When did you become stupid or were you born this way?
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
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20956 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:42 am to
I think you're right about that.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
30623 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:49 am to
World is a crazy place.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 6:52 am
Posted by cadillacattack
the ATL
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:50 am to
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4085 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:59 am to
remember the iran-iraq war. i think a million iranian soldiers died in that war. many died from poison gas that saddam hussien used on them. most people don't know that we provided iraq with that gas. then we provided intel from our satellites as to where the iranians were. i am sure we are giving israel all kinds of satellite intel now just like we gave saddam hussien then.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78334 posts
Posted on 6/18/25 at 7:41 am to
So the US made a chess move to counter the Soviets. It is neither bad nor good, it was about self preservation. Thats how all of this goes on an international stage. No country can be a goodie and survive unless they are in league in some way with "baddies" who agree not to crush them.
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