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We've seen cops steal money, plant drugs on people, beat up elderly, get DUIs, overdose.

Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:56 am
Posted by PoppedRiser
Member since May 2025
856 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 3:56 am
Literally cannot be trusted any more than a regular person. Their word really shouldn't count any more in court than a defendant's word. There's a significant percentage of them who are degenerates or psychopaths, there's no other way about it.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13094 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:29 am to
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Their word

You're a Russian troll farm bot.

What weight should we place on your word?
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26213 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 4:31 am to
Well most wear cameras now so….
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
13754 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:05 am to
They are as flawed as all humans when they start....after a few months of seeing humanity at its absolute worse, in ways that are imaginable to anyone not in the business, most slide into a very dark place where everyone is the worst person they ever dreamed of as a defense mechanism. Its a damn tough job and an extremely necessary one.

As a society we really should do as much for them as possible. That is not supporting them no matter what they do....that is actually a big part of the problem. That encourages the worst among them to be the bar by which they are all measured. There is a lot we can do to make the job more human, First off avoiding hiring and getting rid of true psychopath's among them. The vast majority are the type of person who has to help people when they are in trouble. When the rare psychotic enters a group of such people nothing positive is going to ensue. The psychotic can easily become more of the norm than not. That makes the job of everyone around them infinitely more difficult.

We should not measure the success of our police by the number of arrests made. An arrest should mean a crime was committed and involves a victim in all but the rarest cases. That is a failing, not a success. We should measure their success by a reduction in crime and community involvement in the policing of the community. That should be the measure of success, not arresting criminals who have victimized the community. When there is an arrest the measure of success should be conviction rate. It is rarely considered.

We should shame people who despise cops and simultaneously hold cops to a higher standard. This is not mutually exclusive. There is a lot we can do but all we do is either complain about the bad ones or claim they are doing a perfect job with no issues. Neither is where our focus should be.
Posted by msu202020
Member since Feb 2011
4321 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:24 am to
Sprinkle some crack on em and lets get out of here.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37888 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:39 am to
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Their word really shouldn't count any more in court than a defendant's word


What does this mean? “Count more” how? Are they awarded extra points or something?

They are a witness just like any other. I wouldn’t give them any more weight than the defendants mother telling me how sweet and wonderful her son is.

Posted by holmesbr
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Feb 2012
3966 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:44 am to
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Well most wear cameras now so….


One problem is no consequences apparently when the report doesn't match the body cam footage.
Posted by NatalbanyTigerFan
On the water somewhere
Member since Oct 2007
8576 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 5:55 am to
You'll never convince me that there is such a thing as a good cop.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
10184 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:25 am to
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You'll never convince me that there is such a thing as a good cop


I don't believe a single person becomes a cop to help people. It's a power thing.
Posted by TT
Member since Nov 2007
1522 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:30 am to
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What does this mean? “Count more” how? Are they awarded extra points or something? They are a witness just like any other. I wouldn’t give them any more weight than


Well since you’re criticizing statements, are you handing them sacks of potatoes with your “more weight” statement?
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
120965 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:31 am to
Are you asking for more “reform” so your criminal buddies can go free?
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
14359 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:34 am to
This schtick is already old, you're like the even more uneducated civil liberties version of Raoul504.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16136 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:37 am to
Sounds like either you or someone close to you got arrested.

It’s a shame our jails are full of so many innocent people, right?
Posted by dakarx
Member since Sep 2018
8333 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:37 am to
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Well most wear cameras now so….


Cameras that they have control of when it records audio and/or video? Then the LEO agency has the ability to redact whatever they consider 'sensitive', claim doesn't exist, or just not provide.

That is not transparency. When the above is true, that footage is to protect the cops and hem up citizens, not to protect citizens.

Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6650 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:44 am to
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the measure of success should be conviction rate

It already is. This is why you have dirty cops and DAs planting evidence and coercing witnesses. They often times don't care about right or wrong or injustice or community well-being as long as they get that conviction so that they have record of being tough on crime. That's how they get promoted and reelected. Most cops are the psychopath assholes and bullies and it's mostly due to the reasons you mentioned. I believe that most go into that career with good intentions but they get caught up in a negative spiral when dealing with the public day in and day out. The current system is not conducive to honest behavior.
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Its a damn tough job and an extremely necessary one.

I agree
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
13522 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:45 am to
I’ve had this conversation with a friend who is a cop, and the likes to point out that there are a few bad apples in every profession.

The difference is in other professions the good apples will report the bad apples to stop them and with the police the good cops do nothing, or worse lie and falsely imprison innocent people to protect the bad cop.

Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
16146 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:48 am to
A cop is a lot like a doctor. Normal human with an elitist complex that think the rules don’t apply to them.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 6:51 am
Posted by rowbear1922
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2008
15772 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:53 am to
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PoppedRiser


Dear Facebook…
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
6650 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:55 am to
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with the police the good cops do nothing, or worse lie and falsely imprison innocent people

Then they aren't good cops
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79009 posts
Posted on 6/4/25 at 6:55 am to
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You'll never convince me that there is such a thing as a good cop
This is moronic. I hope it's just hyperbole because you're emotional about this topic.
This post was edited on 6/4/25 at 7:11 am
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