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Now its official Putin skips peace talks in Istanbul....the one's he himself proposed -

Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:44 am
Posted by Eurocat
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Posted on 5/15/25 at 3:44 am
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STANBUL (Reuters) -Russian President Vladimir Putin sent aides and deputy ministers to hold peace talks with Ukraine in Turkey on Thursday, spurning Kyiv's challenge to go there in person to meet President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

Putin on Sunday proposed direct negotiations with Ukraine in Istanbul and Zelenskiy had said he would be waiting for the Kremlin leader.
This post was edited on 5/15/25 at 3:49 am
Posted by 88Wildcat
Topeka, Ks
Member since Jul 2017
15714 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 5:05 am to
There was an emergency in Moscow when Steven Seagal beached himself in Gorky Park.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
52068 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:15 am to
He's probably overly concerned about being assassinated
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16998 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:28 am to
No kidding.

I dont understand the obsession with "Putin has to meet him face to face" nonsense.

He doesnt. Russia keeps the land they have reclaimed, there is no NATO for ukraine, and the fighting stops.

The further nonsense about a peace force to protect ukraine. Why is it the world's responsibility to protect ukraine? If he wants protection tell him to fight like a man for what he wants to defend instead of crying like a child.

Or it continues til he has no country. Its pretty simple.

Unfortunately because of that latest tranche of cash approved before biden left, we will continue to supply weapons for several months since they were not manufactured yet.

Course we could cut of satellite tech and remove our personnel so they could not target anymore.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13410 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:31 am to
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He doesnt. Russia keeps the land they have reclaimed, there is no NATO for ukraine, and the fighting stops. The further nonsense about a peace force to protect ukraine. Why is it the world's responsibility to protect ukraine? If he wants protection tell him to fight like a man for what he wants to defend instead of crying like a child. Or it continues til he has no country. Its pretty simple.



There has to be some mechanism to prevent any peace deal from becoming just a pause and hostilities starting again in a few years once Russia consolidates and reorginizes in lost military eq/manpower.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
165414 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:36 am to
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He's probably overly concerned about being assassinated

Tends to happen when you start unnecessary wars
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
9700 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:37 am to
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Russia keeps the land they have reclaimed,


That's one way to phrase it.

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there is no NATO for ukraine


Russia doesn't get to decide who joins NATO. frick that.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39799 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:39 am to
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unnecessary


Your perspective.

Perhaps Ukraine is simply in the found out phase.
Posted by TSmith
New Orleans, La.
Member since Jan 2004
1994 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:48 am to
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There has to be some mechanism to prevent any peace deal from becoming just a pause and hostilities starting again in a few years once Russia consolidates and reorginizes in lost military eq/manpower.

Putin’s death is the only mechanism. Chances are that whoever comes after him won’t have the same delusions.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
7603 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:49 am to
“If we will just print and send Ukraine another 100 Billion, this will all be over”

OP, while waiting for a big chunk of the printed 100 Billion to be kicked back to him
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87864 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:50 am to
Howbmany times has Lil Z walked away from talks and signing deals?

Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33125 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:53 am to
My God! Your overall comprehension is at fetus levels.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16998 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 6:59 am to
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There has to be some mechanism to prevent any peace deal from becoming just a pause and hostilities starting again in a few years once Russia consolidates and reorginizes in lost military eq/manpower.


Noble, but its not our problem.

I do like the ones who evoke, "well we are draining Russia so they will no longer be a threat". We tried that tactic with Germany after WW1....that turned out great, only this time the country has enough nukes to destroy us all.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87864 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:00 am to
What the fack are you crying about now?
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16998 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:01 am to
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quote:
Russia keeps the land they have reclaimed,


That's one way to phrase it.


Over on OT it rustles some jimmies, thought the board would like it
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
26182 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:02 am to
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I dont understand the obsession with "Putin has to meet him face to face" nonsense. He doesnt.

Then why did Putin propose it?

Putin didn’t think that Ukraine would show up. Now Putin looks like the problem that he is.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
108205 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:03 am to
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Howbmany times has Lil Z walked away from talks and signing deals?



Exactly.

Putin isn't going be seen going there for Z to act and arse and then waffle/abandon any agreement that results from a "face to face".

He saw what happened with Trump/Vance and Z and knows it would be 10x worse. Not a look he needs domestically.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
16998 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:03 am to
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Putin’s death is the only mechanism. Chances are that whoever comes after him won’t have the same delusions.


Ah the Mugabe strategy. They cheered in the streets when he died......then elected "the crocodile"....who was actually the henchman carrying out Mugabe's deeds.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
33125 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:04 am to
Weak comeback, even for you. Do better.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
87864 posts
Posted on 5/15/25 at 7:05 am to
I figured you wouldnt be able to provide a coherent answer
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