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Did the U.S. instigate a coup in Ukraine which ultimately led to the war? re: Maidan Coup

Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:22 am
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:22 am
TD: what on earth is going on in Ukraine part 1

Ukrainian Prime minster standing up in Parliament warning of a planned coup attempt—a day before the Maidan protests start in November 2013.
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In my role as a representative of the Ukrainian people, activists from the Volya Public Organization turned to me, providing clear evidence that within our country, with support and direct participation of the US Embassy in Kiev, a "TechCamp" project is under way in which preparations are being made for a civil war in Ukraine. The "TechCamp" project prepares specialists for information warfare and for the discrediting of state institutions [the Government) using modern media — potential revolutionaries for organizing protests and the toppling of the Government. This project is overseen by and currently under the responsibility of the US Ambassador to Ukraine, Geoffrey R. Pyatt. After the conversation with the Volya Organization, I learned that they actually succeeded to access facilities in the "TechCamp" project [they had hacked into it] disguised as a team of IT specialists. To their surprise, were found briefings that were held on peculiarities of modern media. American instructors explained there how social networks and Internet technologies can be used for targeted manipulation of public opinion as well as to activate potential protest to provoke violent unrest on the territory of Ukraine — radicalization of the population, and triggering of infighting.

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To date, State Department sponsored TechCamps in Ukraine have trained more than 200 civil society organizers from throughout the country and Belarus. The technologies and approaches presented help to build new networks of relationships, enhance skill development, and create new avenues for communication. Adoption of these technologies by civil society organizations will help support the missions of these groups as well as broader social goals of democracy, transparency and good governance in the 21st Century.

So, these TechCamps were set up in 2012 and hosted by the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine to train Ukrainian civilians on how to topple their government

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The activists trained by TechCamp and other protestors driving the mass demonstrations against President Yanukovych's decision came from NGOs, organized by the CIA and funded mainly by the US Agency for International Development (USAID, the National Endowment for Democracy (NED), the Open Society Foundations, under the name Renaissance Foundation (???????????????— ???????????), from the billionaire George Soros, Freedom House, Poland- America-Ukraine Cooperation Initiative, etc.
See The World Disorder (2019)

Oof yeah, this one is going to be hard to explain as organic innit, SFP?

Article goes on to add other evidence to the CIA instigating the coup in Ukraine in 2014
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The first being the US Under Secretary of the State, Victoria Nuland talking to the US ambassador Pyatt and discussing the make up of the new government in 2013 before the coup had even occurred.[31] This substantiates the claim that the NGO’s operating out of the US embassy and their tech camps were involved in a intentional regime change. The audio and transcript can be found on youtube or google.[32] It was so clear that even US Geopolitical expert Friedman described Ukraine as “The most blatant coup in history”.[33]


Obama’s Under Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland, gets caught discussing who they’ll allow to be in the future Ukrainian government BEFORE the coup takes place. She also admits the U.S. invested $5 billion in the country in 2013-14

youtube: $5 billion admission

Further, “It didn’t help that Nuland herself participated in the protests, as well as other US officials“ … like John McCain



What does this all mean? The CIA has been invested in Ukraine since 2013 working to topple the government with funding from NGO’s.

The CIA aggressively escalated their presence in the country in 2014-15 and began directly training their spies

the CIA even opened a brand new “nimble” intelligence service of handpicked young Ukrainians that has conducted assassinations of civilians inside of Russia

But Putin bad guy! He invade for no reason!

I haven’t watched the Ukraine on Fire documentary yet but apparently there is a lot of good information there as well
This post was edited on 3/9/25 at 8:25 am
Posted by wryder1
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:24 am to
The answer is yes. This could be said in many other countries as well. I’d even go as far to say that the entire Middle East is a mess because of us and certain South American countries.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20018 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:25 am to
Yes, Obama used the same playbook for the Arab Spring
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
51341 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:28 am to
These events you describe are very provocative towards Russia. The US and EU plan was to bring Ukraine into NATO and the EU.


The US and the West never wavered on these objectives. As such, in 2022, Russia had had enough, and responded with force.

Over here on our side, the US and West side, some of us have wavered on our two objectives of bringing Ukraine into NATO and the EU. Many of us have not.

I do not see Peace on the horizon over there.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2271 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:29 am to
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Did the U.S. instigate a coup in Ukraine which ultimately led to the war? re: Maidan Coup


Unequivocally yes.

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Yes, Obama used the same playbook for the Arab Spring


Same playbook for the 2020 election season as well.
Posted by NineLineBind
LA....no, the other one
Member since May 2020
7985 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:33 am to
Minus Victoria Nuland, that sounds a lot like how J6 happened.
Posted by coolpapaboze
Parts Unknown
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:44 am to
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This could be said in many other countries as well.
I’ve lost count how many times the US has done this. It’s easy however to count the number of times it’s worked out to the US’s benefit in the long term: 0.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:46 am to
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Did the U.S. instigate a coup in Ukraine which ultimately led to the war?
Is water wet?
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
1304 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:56 am to
Yes. Anyone who says otherwise is not a serious person.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:57 am to
The ONLY problem I have with your post is the title. The title implies there is some doubt and that this is not already proven to be fact.

9 of 10 people will see the title and not read a word of what you wrote.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
20018 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:59 am to
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9 of 10 people will see the title and not read a word of what you wrote.

It’s primarily a response to SFP yesterday vehemently denying that we had anything to do with it.

Curious to see if his 1/10 self will show up and continue to deny the facts
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
31976 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 8:59 am to
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Did the U.S. instigate a coup in Ukraine which ultimately led to the war
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
119709 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:00 am to
What an organic protest/coup!

So organic.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
13365 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:01 am to
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Did the U.S. instigate a coup in Ukraine which ultimately led to the war? re: Maidan Coup


Literally everyone knew what this was in 2013.

It was celebrated as a western victory.


Its the elephant in the room that none of these politicians can talk about. When Trump says Z started the war… no, we all fricking understand russia invaded. Thats not what Trump means. But the crimean invasion happened as a direct result of the coup. Things devolved very quickly.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/9/25 at 9:40 am to
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I’d even go as far to say that the entire Middle East is a mess because of us and certain South American countries.


You can’t leave the UK out of that list. They, perhaps more than the US are responsible for the US.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
16779 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:26 am to
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Minus Victoria Nuland, that sounds a lot like how J6 happened.


Good point.

What better way continue your revolution than to use the same tools to activate the opposition to your plan and then come after them so aggressively it scares everyone else.

Also, it creates the perfect cover to compel an invasion because you can always use this as the defense to argue who started the war. Obviously Russia since they invaded right?

These people aren’t stupid in how they do this.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
40400 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:28 am to
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46561 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:28 am to
There is no doubt the US was undermining the Ukrainian government. We do that all the time. What you are leaving out is that Russia had undermined previous governments, and that Russia and Britain/USA have been doing this for 150 years. This is not something new.

I recommend, for the umpteenth time, Peter Hopkirk’s The Great Game.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
39556 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:30 am to
Posted by BarberitosDawg
Lee County Florida across causeway
Member since Oct 2013
11813 posts
Posted on 3/9/25 at 10:30 am to
21-3 it happened as you laid out.
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