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What investment advice to give a 19 year old?

Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Kingpenm3
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:25 pm
Basic scenario, kid has worked and has about $5k in savings outside of all other needs. Goes to add it to local bank savings account, and I say no, there are better options, we need to open a Schwab account for you.

But... It's hard to say to put it all in an account that will lock it away for 40 years when it (or some) could be used for a down payment on a house some day.

And... It's hard to say put it all in a SP500 fund when that seems too risky if the funds are going to be used in 3-4 years.

I'm sure a chunk of it should be put in a HYSA or fund for now.

I'm sure the answer is some blend of options. But will appreciate the MB ideas and pass them along. TIA.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3256 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 2:34 pm to
Buy VOO or some SP500 fund and forget that $ exists other than to add on later. Make him start out like he is starting over at 0. He'll thank you later.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:21 pm to
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SP500 fund when that seems too risky

You think an S&P Index Fund is too risky?

FXAIX and forget about it.


This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 3:24 pm
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 3:29 pm to
From one dad to another. You seem to have done a great job so far in that a 19 year old actually has money saved. That puts you ahead of the curve!


Second, I would not want my own money locked up so maybe my perspective will help you.

I would teach him all about selling calls and about dividends. I say that, because his account can go in cash and in value. It gives him the option of reinvesting or taking some.

To me, that would be an easier sell.
Posted by Thundercles
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:17 pm to
My dad always hammered home the importance of "saving money' but it never stuck because he never walked through the math of what saving 5k per year would do for me with growth 30 years from then. I was a financial imbecile all through my 20's and didn't realize the future money I was pissing away on nothing.

So if anything, sit him down, explain growth and dividends. Show him the actual math on what it would mean to save 5k per year and have that grow for 40 years. I never got that and it took me years to start saving because of it. If I had seen what life could be now, I'd be fundamentally different.

So educate him on that and the dots will start to connect much faster. Find some Dave Ramsey clips where someone calls in at 50 with no savings.

Posted by el Gaucho
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 4:27 pm to
Buy a pressure washer and use the money to make more money
Posted by white perch
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:21 pm to
Don’t get anybody pregnant.
Posted by Tifway419
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:41 pm to
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So if anything, sit him down, explain growth and dividends. Show him the actual math on what it would mean to save 5k per year and have that grow for 40 years.
$1 invested in the S&P and left alone will turn into $88 in 45 years (not adjusted for inflation and assuming the same rate of return continues). How does $440,000 sound to him in 2070?

Posted by wiltznucs
Apollo Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2005
9259 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 6:58 pm to
Fidelity offers a program for teens. They even throw the first $100 into their account for free. I got my daughter in when she was 15. It functions both as a savings, checking and brokerage account. She works at a local Publix and has her checks deposited into the account.

Her savings go into SPAXX which currently yields 4%+. It comes with a debit card which gives her a reward for each use and allows them to experience budgeting and financial independence.

More importantly; as the parent I can access the account and see where she’s spending and counsel when needed. It’s hers free and clear; at age 18 I will no longer be able to see the account.

Early on I convinced her to put some money in the market. Told her to choose something she believes in and buy some shares. She chose Lululemon because teenage girl. LOL.

She got in near the top and a stop loss kept her from bleeding too much. She learned a valuable lesson about diversification. Now she’s all in on VTI. She proudly boasts about her “portfolio” and that it’s made her a few grand over the years.

Investing is an endurance race. The earlier you start the better. Buy now and then buy more. Repeat.

The power of compounding isn’t driven into kids as it should be. Less is typically more. Chasing individual stocks seldom works as well as Indexing.

If I had a Time Machine this is what I’d go back and tell my teenage self. Buy a S&P Index fund and keep buying whenever you can; no matter how small. Max out your 401K and/or Roth every year. The studies couldn’t be more clear; people who start early and even stop contributing for extended periods arrive to the finish line better off than people who start late and throw piles of money in. The power of compounding is that profound.

This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 7:00 pm
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:16 pm to
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She got in near the top and a stop loss kept her from bleeding too much.


A lesson we all learn the hard way. Better as a teenager rather than in your 40s. Well done
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
11067 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:17 pm to
$5k isn’t going to accomplish anything in this housing market or mortgage rate environment.

Throw it in any low cost s&p index fund and forget about it.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
37171 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 12:06 am to
Is he eligible for a Roth IRA?

If he puts it into a Roth IRA, in later years can he take out his own contributions without penalty if he is in a bind?
Posted by 3D
NJ
Member since Sep 2013
1294 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 12:54 am to
encourage him to invest in companies he likes (Nike, Apple, Ford, Coca-Cola, McDonalds) put $1k into each and see who wins the race. If he needs money, be the Dad and provide it while his money compounds.... thats the job we signed up for
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38923 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:02 am to
Get that roth going at 19 baw. Pretty insane how much of a difference starting at 19 can make
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
5683 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:07 am to
Start now and consistently throw something else at it every month
Posted by makersmark1
earth
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:52 am to
Roth IRA.

I think the rules allow monies to be used for house down payment.
Posted by makersmark1
earth
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 6:55 am to
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would teach him all about selling calls


I’ve sold many calls over the years.
The good stocks get called away.
The bad ones languish.

Dividend growth>dividend yield.

Simplify.
SCHD
Posted by Tarps99
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Member since Apr 2017
11616 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 7:17 am to
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Don’t get anybody pregnant.


Or married too young. Young women can be vampire to your bank account and soul.

No matter how much she professes that she loves you, there is probably a body count a mile long of heart break and innuendo.
This post was edited on 1/4/25 at 7:18 am
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:06 am to
Dividend stonks. He'll have to pay taxes on the dividends but will still be coming out ahead and if he's 19 he's in a low tax bracket. Can sell in the future if needed and pay the long term capital gains tax (also lower). Also throw some into a short term CD until interest rates drop.

Saying this because there's a short time horizon on needing the money back, so you don't want to put it in an instrument where there's a penalty for cashing in. Longer term horizon I would say IRA or SPY.
Posted by agilitydawg
Member since Aug 2022
189 posts
Posted on 1/4/25 at 9:09 am to
I am trying to work through these conversations with my 29-year-old niece, who is just getting established in her career and starting to make money. She has a lot of free cash flow and is interested in guidance.

I like the detailed math conversations and compounding interest, etc. But the more challenging part of the conversation for me is how to guide her while she sets her goals. Car expenses, possible house, currently returned for her second Master's, etc.

While at 58, I feel like I can see the future, from her 29-year-old perspective, she has to value the concept of having money to retire, buy a house, etc.

The conversation starts with getting anyone to the point where they can see many of the more significant financial decisions they will face in their lifetime. Then, they can begin to prioritize them. It is tough to provide appropriate guidance without clarity about their time horizons or what the investment or money is earmarked for.

For example, a conversation about keeping your cash flow needs lower while increasing income and how that affects your emergency fund or even what is an emergency vs. need that can be handled by free cash flow is a longer-term multi-conversation topic.

You might work on finding material that helps him better understand addressing specific or pathway needs like Retirement, Emergency funds, possibly real estate investments, living within one's means, etc.

I am sharing details about the decisions that have worked for me and why, including retirement investing, emergency funds, vehicles, etc, but doing it in a way that leaves her with the decision about how she wants to approach it for her circumstances.

I don't see her too often, but in the year, she has shuffled some non-interest-earning savings into an HYS account and re-prioritized some spending choices (she wants to travel, but her budget seemed a little high compared to other needs she has). She has learned how much she had in a prior retirement account and has started saving 20% in her current employer's 401 k, so she is taking some essential steps, including becoming organized and informed about what she really does and does not have in place.

Keep in mind that if this conversation with your son lasts a year while he begins to learn about these topics and makes decisions that will help him 40 years from now when he is 59, it will be of amazing benefit to him.
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