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wiltznucs
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re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/25/25 at 9:13 am
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Wiltz, correct me on any of this if I'm wrong.
Spot on; that VP is a mess. I like to top them off when they reach about to my hip. Then encourage lateral branching. I consider this video to be the gold standard for managing mango canopies. Definitely worth checking out.
Mango Pruning
re: Traveling to Japan. Help.
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/23/25 at 3:58 pm
Just got back from 10 days in Japan last month.
Personally; I’d do something like this…
Tokyo 2-3 days. I stayed in Ginza. It’s a major shopping district that winds down about 9PM. Much more quiet than Shibuya or others.
Day 4…. Take the Shinkansen to Hiroshima. Give it 1 day possibly two. See the bomb memorial, museum and castle.
Take the Shinkansen to Himeji. It’s roughly half way from Hiroshima to Osaka. Less than two hours by train. Leave your bags in one of the lockers at the Himeji train station then do the Himeji Castle. It’s absolutely stunning. It’s an easy day trip along with the Garden next door. A one mile walk from the Station.
Hop back on the Shinkansen and arrive to Osaka that night.
From Osaka you can easily make day trips to Kyoto and Nara. Osaka is quite different than Tokyo. Get yourself close to the Dotonbori area. That’s where the food scene thrives.
Push back to Tokyo for another another few days.
Perhaps throw in some other stops….
Sakai is right outside of Osaka. Many of Japan’s most famous cutlery and knife makers are there. Makes for a cool keepsake and by buying direct from the maker you save a lot of money compared to buying in the Tokyo shops.
Kobe is in the route to Osaka. Grab some beef at the source.
Some other advice….
Japan is seeing record numbers of tourists.
It is unbelievably crowded. You have a few hours to work with each morning before the tour buses arrive to the major attractions. Take advantage of this. Get there early and beat the crowds. Seriously; by 10AM most places are a zoo.
This crowds also presented a bit of an obstacle for us as a family of four. Most restaurants in Japan are quite small and trying to squeeze in a family of four in without reservations was difficult. Either start making reservations weeks in advance or know that you will have to freestyle a bit. Many of the restaurants we tried told us they had been booked out months in advance.
If you have an iPhone, download the Suica app. This will allow you to use your phone to use all major train lines throughout the country. You can simply download money to it using your Apple wallet. Tap and go. It’s super efficient. Any money that is not used can be used for purchases at 7-Eleven or any number of restaurants.
When using the Shinkansen, there are reserved seating cars and non-reserved seating cars. For longer trips the reserved seating cars are worth the extra cost as they do have AC outlets and Wi-Fi access.
It is generally unnecessary to book your Shinkansen tickets in advance. The trains move every few minutes and can be purchased online while at the station.
Carry your passport with you at all times if purchasing and wanting to take advantage of the 10% tax free foreigners discount.
Wear good shoes…. We averaged 10-12 miles per day.
Finally, there is no need to bring cash. You can use the ATMs located at 7-Eleven or any of the kombinis at a very, very low cost.
Personally; I’d do something like this…
Tokyo 2-3 days. I stayed in Ginza. It’s a major shopping district that winds down about 9PM. Much more quiet than Shibuya or others.
Day 4…. Take the Shinkansen to Hiroshima. Give it 1 day possibly two. See the bomb memorial, museum and castle.
Take the Shinkansen to Himeji. It’s roughly half way from Hiroshima to Osaka. Less than two hours by train. Leave your bags in one of the lockers at the Himeji train station then do the Himeji Castle. It’s absolutely stunning. It’s an easy day trip along with the Garden next door. A one mile walk from the Station.
Hop back on the Shinkansen and arrive to Osaka that night.
From Osaka you can easily make day trips to Kyoto and Nara. Osaka is quite different than Tokyo. Get yourself close to the Dotonbori area. That’s where the food scene thrives.
Push back to Tokyo for another another few days.
Perhaps throw in some other stops….
Sakai is right outside of Osaka. Many of Japan’s most famous cutlery and knife makers are there. Makes for a cool keepsake and by buying direct from the maker you save a lot of money compared to buying in the Tokyo shops.
Kobe is in the route to Osaka. Grab some beef at the source.
Some other advice….
Japan is seeing record numbers of tourists.
It is unbelievably crowded. You have a few hours to work with each morning before the tour buses arrive to the major attractions. Take advantage of this. Get there early and beat the crowds. Seriously; by 10AM most places are a zoo.
This crowds also presented a bit of an obstacle for us as a family of four. Most restaurants in Japan are quite small and trying to squeeze in a family of four in without reservations was difficult. Either start making reservations weeks in advance or know that you will have to freestyle a bit. Many of the restaurants we tried told us they had been booked out months in advance.
If you have an iPhone, download the Suica app. This will allow you to use your phone to use all major train lines throughout the country. You can simply download money to it using your Apple wallet. Tap and go. It’s super efficient. Any money that is not used can be used for purchases at 7-Eleven or any number of restaurants.
When using the Shinkansen, there are reserved seating cars and non-reserved seating cars. For longer trips the reserved seating cars are worth the extra cost as they do have AC outlets and Wi-Fi access.
It is generally unnecessary to book your Shinkansen tickets in advance. The trains move every few minutes and can be purchased online while at the station.
Carry your passport with you at all times if purchasing and wanting to take advantage of the 10% tax free foreigners discount.
Wear good shoes…. We averaged 10-12 miles per day.
Finally, there is no need to bring cash. You can use the ATMs located at 7-Eleven or any of the kombinis at a very, very low cost.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/23/25 at 10:55 am
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Having some trouble with the Lychee. Leaves are turning brown after about 2 weeks after transferring to the new bigger pot.
Honestly; in my experience that is almost inevitable. They are notorious for going into shock after being transferred or planted. Many times they are sold with somewhat weak roots after being air layered.
Don’t give up hope yet, keep the soil moist and apply citrus type fertilizer after a few weeks. They are temperamental and need a lot of TLC.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/20/25 at 10:08 am
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How tall do the tall and dwarf varieties get? Lots of online info says 12-15’ for the tall, and 8-10’ for the dwarf, but I’m skeptical of those numbers.

This is a Namwah I purchased as a single 3 foot tall tree in 2021. Put it in the ground in 22’. I think 12-15’ feet is an accurate number.
Gave me two bunches last year. Separated off a cluster of pups last year and replanted them on the other side of the house. That single tree has turned into 8-10 trunks now.
Hasn’t produced fruit this year; this time last year it was holding fruit. They took a beating during Hurricane Milton so it feels like everything is a bit off.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/17/25 at 8:56 pm
That’s a good price for some larger trees.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/17/25 at 8:29 pm
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Any experience treating the LEM?
The first thing they tell you when growing fruit trees in Central and South Florida is to keep after them with Neem Oil and Copper Fungicide in the Spring and Fall. Wettable Sulfur in the Winter. I haven’t seen LEM yet; but, I do have a very proactive pest management style.
re: KDB Leaving City
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/17/25 at 12:21 pm
As a City fan it’s been an absolute privilege to watch him play.
Among the last of the Centurions still at City now.
Watching that combo of Silva, KDB, and Fernandinho at midfield feeding it to Aguero, Bernardo, Sterling and Sane was peak football for me. An absolute offensive juggernaut.
Not a matter of if they were gonna beat you; but, how badly. Truly a golden era.
He’ll be sorely missed. Give the man the send off he deserves and build the statue.
fricking legend…
Among the last of the Centurions still at City now.
Watching that combo of Silva, KDB, and Fernandinho at midfield feeding it to Aguero, Bernardo, Sterling and Sane was peak football for me. An absolute offensive juggernaut.
Not a matter of if they were gonna beat you; but, how badly. Truly a golden era.
He’ll be sorely missed. Give the man the send off he deserves and build the statue.
fricking legend…
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/17/25 at 11:00 am

Today’s newest addition. This is a Hak Ip lychee that was air layered from a tree in West Palm Beach. I got it to help co-pollinate my Sweetheart lychee I planted last year.
It’s known for having very dark leaves at maturity and for producing a sweet intensely flavored fruit with a small chicken tongue seed or often terminating with no seed at all. It’s been in a 3 gallon pot for the past few months waiting for the temps to finally settle in and risk of cold to be behind us.
Lychee trees are typically propagated by grafting limbs from mature trees instead of being grown from seed. Odds are I’m looking at 3 years before this one is large enough to provide fruit. Around year 5 I should be able to start grafting limbs off to create new trees.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/17/25 at 7:54 am
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the only Pickering I could find was tiny! But so was the nom dac Mai #4. Hard to find anything of size that you can order shipped
Mango, Avocado and Lychee growing is all about delayed gratification. I have 15 or more mango trees at my place. Most of which are in the ground for over a year now and some started as little one gallon trees and others as 25 gallon trees. Trust me; with proper maintenance they will grow in no time. Sort of an avalanche effect. Some take their time to get rolling; but, once they do they may double in size from one year to the next. I’ve seen 4-5 year old trees that are 15-18 feet tall.
None of them has shown the vigor or precocious growth of the Pickering which was a 7 gallon tree when I got it. One year later it’s probably as large as some of the 25 gallon trees when I got them.
I would not allow your new one to hold fruit. I know that’s hard. We all want to be eating them ASAP. You will get more and better mangoes later by thinning them off now. Pluck them off once they get to pea size and prune the branch just below the panicle once all are gone.
Your goal now is to promote vegetative growth. More branches and shoots equals more panicles and more fruit. Bushy mango trees are much easier to manage than tall, lanky ones. Pruning and tipping is your friend.
So a haircut now and I’d then tip it out again in the Fall. I usually do my final prune in early September to give the trees time for one final flush before they go dormant for Winter.
As a rule; I like to make sure the trees are at least 4 feet tall and 4 feet wide before allowing them to hold fruit. With a Pickering that’s probably a two year old tree that’s in a 15 gallon pot. My Pickering probably had 70 or more mangos set this year. I thinned off some of the smaller ones two weeks ago. Now it’s in that phase where it’s self selecting and dropping the smaller fruit. I still have 30 or more mangoes on it and expect I’ll harvest a handful this summer.
Of the other trees they all set fruit minus Lemon Zest which is known for being quirky. Even the little one gallon trees tried. On 10 of the trees I did exactly what I described above and just about all of them are flushing new leaves and shoots now.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/16/25 at 8:24 pm
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Alphonso
Carrie
Tebow
Irwin
Alphonso is arguably the most famous mango in the world. Considered the King of Indian mangoes. They struggle here in the States; they grow ugly and aren’t as productive as other types. The microclimates and soil types just don’t line up. I’d avoid it.
Carrie is another one that hits the classic Indian profile. Some people love it. I do not. Indian type mangoes are characterized by having spicy, resinous profiles. Carrie is very productive; but, definitely not a dwarf.
Tebow is actually a renamed mango of yesteryear called the “Young” mango. It originated in SoFL and was quite popular as a commercial mango. A cross between a Kent and an Edward. Classic flavor; pretty disease resistant. A medium to large sized tree.
Irwin is another classic flavored mango and like the Tebow is a classic from SoFL. In Japan it’s grown in Miyazaki Prefecture and known as the “Egg of the Sun”. It’s the mango equivalent of A5 Wagyu beef. There’s a process involved. Some of them sell for hundreds of dollars each. They are grown exclusively in pots there; but, full disclosure most Americans don’t care for it. It’s hugely popular in Asia. Specifically; Japan and Taiwan.
Of what you listed; I’d probably do the Irwin if no other choice is provided. Simply because it has a documented track record with growing well in pots. My backup would be the Tebow.
I’d really encourage you to hold out for a Pickering, Dwarf Hawaiian, Sweet Tart or Angie.
re: Will these tariffs be a death blow for some small businesses?
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/15/25 at 3:20 pm
Unfortunately, there’s no one single data repository that manages to capture it all.
So you are forced to extrapolate a bit.
Domestic producers who sell product in the United States are expected to file a report with the TTB every year. Unfortunately, it is a bit of a lagging indicator. Meaning we’re only just now starting to see the 2024 data.
Distributors who import products are expected to file as well.
Even that has its problems. The reporting is self-reported and probably not as closely monitored as you might expect. Technically, as a producer, you don’t necessarily have to report product that is still unsold and the same is true with the distributors in some instances.
There’s also an inherent problem in that it sort of lumps alcohol be at spirits, cider, wine or beer is being equivalent per gallon. There are different tax rates associated with the different alcohol percentages, but that is not made very transparent to the public. So the number they present is an aggregate of alcohol gallons which can be composed of different beverages.
There is retail trend data. This is pretty reliable as it uses Fintech. It shows what is going to big box retailers and liquor stores plus other outlets like gas stations. Only what’s going in; not what’s going out.
The fly in the ointment of all this is the small independent producer who doesn’t distribute and sells mostly direct to consumer through their tasting room or tap house. They aren’t captured by retail data at all.
From the retail data, we do know that alcohol sales are flat or in decline. Wine is down again; same with cider and craft beer. The only segment showing growth in the past year has actually been imported beer. Modelo overtaking Bud as Americas favorite beer.
From the TTB data, we do know that that small independent guy is really hurting right now. That’s why so many are closing. Their gallons reported have shown huge reductions.
You can also look at the number of producer licenses, which are either being terminated or not renewed. This is the story I’m watching over the next 24 months.
So you are forced to extrapolate a bit.
Domestic producers who sell product in the United States are expected to file a report with the TTB every year. Unfortunately, it is a bit of a lagging indicator. Meaning we’re only just now starting to see the 2024 data.
Distributors who import products are expected to file as well.
Even that has its problems. The reporting is self-reported and probably not as closely monitored as you might expect. Technically, as a producer, you don’t necessarily have to report product that is still unsold and the same is true with the distributors in some instances.
There’s also an inherent problem in that it sort of lumps alcohol be at spirits, cider, wine or beer is being equivalent per gallon. There are different tax rates associated with the different alcohol percentages, but that is not made very transparent to the public. So the number they present is an aggregate of alcohol gallons which can be composed of different beverages.
There is retail trend data. This is pretty reliable as it uses Fintech. It shows what is going to big box retailers and liquor stores plus other outlets like gas stations. Only what’s going in; not what’s going out.
The fly in the ointment of all this is the small independent producer who doesn’t distribute and sells mostly direct to consumer through their tasting room or tap house. They aren’t captured by retail data at all.
From the retail data, we do know that alcohol sales are flat or in decline. Wine is down again; same with cider and craft beer. The only segment showing growth in the past year has actually been imported beer. Modelo overtaking Bud as Americas favorite beer.
From the TTB data, we do know that that small independent guy is really hurting right now. That’s why so many are closing. Their gallons reported have shown huge reductions.
You can also look at the number of producer licenses, which are either being terminated or not renewed. This is the story I’m watching over the next 24 months.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/15/25 at 2:22 pm

Potting up Tuesday…. Decided to do the annual pot exchange on my potted mangoes.
Following some advice here I changed it up a bit. My mix this time around is a combination of Sunshine Mix 4, Peat, Worm Castings, Charcoal, Perlite and Sand.
Lemon-esh, Monty, Angie, Bolt, Mahachanok and Sweet Tart all have a new home.
re: How confident are you that Trump and his team know what they are doing with tariffs?
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/9/25 at 11:32 am
My confidence is near zero.
History shows that every century or so someone pops up and tries tariffs again as it’s been so long that everyone has forgotten the last time.
Tariffs and the subsequent trade wars ultimately are a tax on the middle and lower class. They never seem to end well as then President Benjamin Harrison learned a century ago. Voted out after one term.
Protectionist economic policies have also shown unsavory results. Ask Cuba and/or Russia.
These tariffs are far larger and broader reaching than anything I imagined. I knew they were coming; he said as much, perhaps I thought they’d be more focused and targeted than the nonsensical and totally non transparent way they’ve rolled out.
The worry now is so many are calling his bluff and he’s doubling down because his ego won’t allow him to take an L.
History shows that every century or so someone pops up and tries tariffs again as it’s been so long that everyone has forgotten the last time.
Tariffs and the subsequent trade wars ultimately are a tax on the middle and lower class. They never seem to end well as then President Benjamin Harrison learned a century ago. Voted out after one term.
Protectionist economic policies have also shown unsavory results. Ask Cuba and/or Russia.
These tariffs are far larger and broader reaching than anything I imagined. I knew they were coming; he said as much, perhaps I thought they’d be more focused and targeted than the nonsensical and totally non transparent way they’ve rolled out.
The worry now is so many are calling his bluff and he’s doubling down because his ego won’t allow him to take an L.
re: Will these tariffs be a death blow for some small businesses?
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/8/25 at 1:48 pm
If you want to believe that Constellation brands sold their entire wine portfolio over annualized 1% sales declines that fine. If you want to believe companies like Caymus, Stags Leap Wine Cellars, Penfolds and even Chateau Mouton Rothschild are inking cut-rate deals with Costco to counter 1% annual sales declines too that’s cool too. If you want to believe BrewHub who is the largest contract brewer in the country isn’t under a foreclosure bankruptcy due to its inability to pay its debts right now that’s peachy. You can overlook the fact that WhistlePig listed half its campus for sale last month and that Old Elk laid off half its sales team last Friday. I’m not one to let facts get in the way of a good argument.
The fact is; wine consumption in terms of gallons per person is way, way down and has been reported by numerous outlets. Is it due to a number of factors? Absolutely. There’s a lot more choices than there were 40 years ago.
Companies don’t go under over a few 1% sales declines. Companies go under when there’s wholesale changes in consumer demand which is what’s happening.
The fact is; wine consumption in terms of gallons per person is way, way down and has been reported by numerous outlets. Is it due to a number of factors? Absolutely. There’s a lot more choices than there were 40 years ago.
Companies don’t go under over a few 1% sales declines. Companies go under when there’s wholesale changes in consumer demand which is what’s happening.
re: Will these tariffs be a death blow for some small businesses?
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/8/25 at 12:48 pm
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This can't possibly be true. Just because there's been a slight downtrend does not mean it is at "historic lows".
You aren’t alone in feeling this way. I think most Americans believe alcohol is a bustling and growing industry based on the explosion of craft beer a decade or more ago. To be sure; some of the industry’s woes are self-inflicted. A major craft beer bubble definitely happened. More recently; the bourbon/spirits industry has shown serious troubles.
A couple of examples. While we were sleeping Stoli USA filed for bankruptcy last year. At one time the largest vodka brand in the US. Ballast Point who sold for $1Billion (with a B) was liquidated for pennies on the dollar. MGP who produces a huge amount of spirits cut its production back 50% last year. Old Forrester who owns Woodford and others announced a mass layoff and closed its cooperage operations. Meaning they are no longer making barrels to fill. Which suggests they have a glut of inventory already in their rickhouses. Just this week another distillery less than two years old filed for bankruptcy. Estimated to have been funded with nearly $100M in VC money. Kentucky Owl filed for bankruptcy a few months ago. Svedka was sold. The list goes on and on. In 2024 for the first time ever the number of breweries closing eclipsed the number of breweries opening.
So the decline isn’t slight. It’s pretty profound.
re: Will these tariffs be a death blow for some small businesses?
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/8/25 at 12:18 pm
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Don’t buy wine from other countries. Problem solved
Wine industry employee/executive here. 10+ years with products sold in 17 countries across 3 continents. Strategically exited last year.
Cold hard truth. Alcohol consumption has plummeted in the US. Wine consumption (in terms of gallons) is at a historic low. We’re talking about numbers not seen since the 60’s-70’s…
Frame that with the backdrop of how much the human population has grown in the past 5 decades. Major producers are offloading their wine portfolios right now (see Constellation Brands).
Lots of moving pieces. Younger people drink less. THC has entered the equation. Post Covid people are trying to get healthier.
While I appreciate the buy American sentiment and believe it will help to some degree; the tariffs are going to hit the already reeling wine industry hard.
Natural cork comes from basically two places. Portugal and Spain. A tariff on the EU will hit even domestic wine producers hard. Cooperage (the barrels wine is aged in) is largely from France. Again; an EU tariff hits them. Bottles are also a problem; the US doesn’t make much of any. Most come from the EU or China. Again; tariffs will hurt.
It’s not limited to wine. I work with Breweries too. A considerable amount of malted barley used to make beer is from the EU or Canada. The hops likely also come from the EU or New Zealand; but, there is some production in the PNW too. Aluminum tariffs will impact the cost of cans as even the American based can producers like Ball use imported aluminum.
If these tariffs stick; the American consumer should expect significant price increases or businesses closing. Even the American made alcohol products can’t escape the fact they are inextricably linked to foreign trade and tariffs.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/7/25 at 10:07 am
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First time I've heard of this one and I'm someone who regularly browses the Madison Citrus Nursury website for the latest limequat and citrange hybrids. Good looking tree. Can't wait to see what those fruits look like.
These sort of started showing up in limited nurseries back in 23’. I was fortunate to grab two last year. Data is still a bit scant; but, I’m doing a little experiment of my own. One is planted in the ground and other in a pot. They do seem to really be nitrogen junkies. They’ve fared far better since I’ve got after them with high doses of nitrogen on a monthly basis. There’s definitely some variances from their Australian brethren. On the Aussie varieties the fruit drops when it’s ripe. Making it easy to pick them up. On these the fruit tends to hang even when fully ripened making you pick them. Unfortunately; the trees have huge spines which have a toxin in them. So gloves must be worn. There’s also some uncertainty about their cold tolerance and depending on what rootstock was used the trees growth can vary significantly.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/6/25 at 5:58 pm
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Hopping in this thread. I'm here in the Tampa area and we have a ton of fruit trees planted. So will be asking some questions. We have avocados, star fruit, coconuts, bunch of mango trees, guava, two types of banana, peach hybrid, and lemon/orange hybrid. Going to pick up some passion fruit soon How often do yall fertilize and what's your go to fertilizer?
I too have quite a variety and have done my best to find a one size fits all solution for fertilizers. I settled on an 8-4-8 from Diamond R here in FL. It’s a slow release formula with micronutrients built in.
I typically fertilize around the beginning of April, first of July, and one final time in late September/early October.
In the cooler months I will typically apply a foliar spray at least once for the micro elements.
Outside of that; I have thrown some gypsum around as it supposedly enhances nutrient uptake and aerates the soil.
With bananas; I’ve had better luck with conventional 10-10-10.
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/6/25 at 1:49 pm

My UF SunLime looks like it’s about to be loaded. We’ll see.
Developed by the University of Florida IFAS the SunLime is a hybrid of two Australian Finger Limes. When fully grown they are about the size of your thumb and filled with a red citrusy caviar.
UF link..
re: Louisiana Tropical Fruit Gardening - Experiences and Updates
Posted by wiltznucs on 4/4/25 at 8:06 pm
Good looking tree! My Pickering is about to hit that period where it’s going to have to start shedding fruit. It’s holding way too much IMHO. If it doesn’t drop some I’m going to have to start plucking the smaller ones.
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