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56% of GOP voters want govt to pay more in monthly SS benefits/medicare
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:28 pm
It’s polls like this that make me skeptical we will solve the entitlement crisis looming in 2033. A majority of *republicans* not only oppose any reforms, but actually want expansions in the programs, without tax increases.
As it stands now, if we are to fix SS by 2033, it will require the largest tax increase in the history of the country, assuming congress kills any attempt at raising retirement age.
Meanwhile, interest on the debt (which we are largely incurring due to ss and Medicare) is now the 2nd largest expenditure.
What a mess.
As it stands now, if we are to fix SS by 2033, it will require the largest tax increase in the history of the country, assuming congress kills any attempt at raising retirement age.
Meanwhile, interest on the debt (which we are largely incurring due to ss and Medicare) is now the 2nd largest expenditure.
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Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:30 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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56% of GOP voters want govt to pay more in monthly SS benefits/medicare
Boomers
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
With 98.36% of DEM voters wanting govt to just pay more across the board, we are frigged!!
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You are right. In all of these bills passed by Congress, there is very little frivolous spending and pet projects in them. There is absolutely no way to cut spending anywhere else.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:37 pm to Revelator
Hmmm...so people want a fair share of what they paid in to their entire lives, but receive much less than if they had just invested all that money in the stock market all those years?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:45 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The sooner they kill SS and Medicare/medicaid the better.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:47 pm to Gifman
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Boomers
Social security is a bad return on investment. They paid into that system their entire life, why should they not get a better benefit?
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:48 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Well over half of Republicans (56%) would like to see the federal government do more to support the elderly through Medicare health insurance and Social Security benefits, the poll found. Nearly 40% want the federal government to continue with current levels of support for the elderly. Only 7% would like it to do less.
I don't really know what this actually means, outside the fact that so many people are conditioned to just go along when asked whether or not they are "for" some sort of purely generalized aspirational shite like this seemed to be asking.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:49 pm to beerJeep
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The sooner they kill SS and Medicare/medicaid the better.
Sad but true. No one is going to want to be the ones to lose those entitlements though and no politician is going to want to have that hung around their neck. The system is broken beyond repair. We and the people we elect are the problem.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:50 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So, quit falling for this government scam. They will spend, spend, spend on everything in sight, except SS and Healthcare, then the government says they are all out of money and the only way to pay for SS is to raise taxes. 
Stop supporting the Dems and their spending on BS and we can fund SS properly.
Stop supporting the Dems and their spending on BS and we can fund SS properly.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:51 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
If we abolished welfare and stopped sending money overseas we could handle SS without any problem.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:52 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I’m shocked boomers want more but honestly SS is a fricking Ponzi scheme and we are all getting fricked.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:52 pm to Figgy
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system is broken beyond repair. We and the people we elect are the problem.
A democracy will continue to exist until the time the voters realize they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
Some smart guy some time ago.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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As it stands now, if we are to fix SS by 2033, it will require the largest tax increase in the history of the country, assuming congress kills any attempt at raising retirement age.
Or finding a way to let younger voters pay a tax to fund shortcomings and upon reaching a certain age being no longer subject to SS deductions.
SSI has to go away for it to be sustainable. In other words, eat a current tax to pay down liabilities and get out of owing it in the future.
This post was edited on 5/15/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 5/15/24 at 1:57 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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It’s polls like this that make me skeptical we will solve the entitlement crisis looming in 2033.
You can fix it on the front end or on the back end.
It's politically untenable to fix it on the front end.
So you fix it on the back end, incognito.
How is that done?
You congressionally appropriate and the Federal Reserve prints. The people pay with inflation.
One way or another, the people will pay.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:00 pm to TerryDawg03
Why is anyone surprised a majority want the benefits to go up?
SS payments have not kept up with inflation at all the past few years.
I'd imagine retired people that do not have 401s, and there are a lot of them, are pretty boned right now.
SS payments have not kept up with inflation at all the past few years.
I'd imagine retired people that do not have 401s, and there are a lot of them, are pretty boned right now.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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56% of GOP voters want govt to pay more in monthly SS benefits/medicare
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Or are public opinion polls a poor compass for policy?
Brigham Tomco has never seen a Bell curve on IQ ...
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:03 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Boomer here. 49 years paying into SS. Forty hours a week minimum and any OT I could get. I want what's coming to me. Period. I start drawing in 2 years and I have zero guilt or misgivings considering if I die before I draw a penny, it all goes back to the government. We all know the issues with the SS Fund and how it was raided over the years. IT this point, I can give 2 F--ks about that. Pay me what's mine.
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:05 pm to GumboPot
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You can fix it on the front end or on the back end. It's politically untenable to fix it on the front end. So you fix it on the back end, incognito.
How is that done?
You congressionally appropriate and the Federal Reserve prints. The people pay with inflation. One way or another, the people will pay.
Which makes it weird IMO that the younger generations are who's propping up the Left and its deep-seated belief in big government. I'm a boomer and am all for shrinking social security to the point it can be eliminated but it's younger guys in these threads that are steadfast against it - "only if you give me my money back first!"
Posted on 5/15/24 at 2:05 pm to beerJeep
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The sooner they kill SS and Medicare/medicaid the better.
Why not welfare?
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