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re: 12 Year Old Girl with BPD

Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:00 pm to
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
66134 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:00 pm to
God Bless you Leo. My daughter has a bit of anxiety from time to time and I have to get in the right place to be patient enough and do the best for her in the moment.

I can only imagine your struggle. I pray it gets better for you guys and she gets the help she needs. YOU are doing a hell of a job though in a difficult situation.
Posted by lsunutinno
Dome Island
Member since Nov 2004
1310 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:05 pm to
Conduct disorder is typically how they label it with kids.

I believe it's usually not until they are adults they they use ASPD and BPD.
Posted by tgrmeat
Member since Sep 2020
4616 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:05 pm to
Buddy, I have no advice for you but you have my empathy and prayers.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
74618 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:05 pm to
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LSUZombie


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Posts like this kind of snap me back to reality


Checks out
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
71865 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:06 pm to
Yep
Posted by Beauw
Blanchard
Member since Sep 2007
3720 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:10 pm to
Dang man, I’m sorry you’re dealing with this. Good luck.
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28975 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:11 pm to
Child psychiatrist (I’ve heard good things about children’s hospital Nola), dialectical behavioral therapy.

Stop walking on eggshells and I hate you don’t leave me are two good books on the subject.

I’m sorry you’re dealing with this. Even for trained professionals BPD patients are some of the most difficult to manage.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
99597 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:11 pm to
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I believe it's usually not until they are adults they they use ASPD and BPD.


Pretty much.

They don’t like to use certain labels such as those, Oppositional Defiant Disorder, etc, before a certain age because those labels can’t get removed.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
16005 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:14 pm to
Been there. Done that. Unfortunately, unless she's institutionalized, it won't get better and you're responsible for her until she's 18. Mine displayed the same behaviors and we haven't spoken at all in 3 years. It sounds shitty to say as a parent, but she brings no joy to my life, only grief. That being the case, I don't want her around.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
53815 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:18 pm to
That's great about your daughter, Aubie.

My heart breaks for folks who have family members, or significant others with serious personality or mood disorders. I am truly thankful that my life has been relatively normal in this regard. My grandfather (mom's dad) was manic depressive so I have a fear in the back of my head that it will get me, or my siblings in a late onset. I am 36, sister is 38, and brother is 41, and so far, we are good. My mom is 64 so she is about at the age where it is unlikely that she'll ever develop anything.

My grandfather died when I was 12 or 13, and my memories of him are actually very fond. Any symptoms he'd display didn't dawn on me as unusual for the most part because I was so young, and oblivious to mental illness. I am thankful for that. I loved going to visit him in his little trailer. He was good about taking his lithium, and I remember him being a very mellow, loving, and caring man. Even at the end when he had to live in a facility because he couldn't care for himself anymore and had severe emphysema, we'd visit him there, and he'd randomly break out singing church hymnals-I really cherish those memories.

Anyway, I really hate that y'all are going through this OP, and I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. I hope that things turn around for her. As many have said in this thread-there is hope, and hope is what keeps us sane. So never give that up.
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 4:20 pm
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
71865 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:22 pm to
Sorry that you and all the others in here have had to go through that. I can't imagine having to deal with or feel like that about a child of mine.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
59363 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:22 pm to
Terrible. Sounds like a horror movie.

In addition to what you've tried, I would recommend finding physical activity she can tolerate and leaning into that. Burn some of the energy off. Sports, outdoors, karate, something.

One would think the more isolated and cooped up she gets with therapy and punishment, the worse she'll act.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14644 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:25 pm to
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Conduct disorder is typically how they label it with kids.


Also Severe Mood Disorder

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I believe it's usually not until they are adults they they use ASPD and BPD.


From my experience, an actual BPD diagnosis or some other more specific diagnosis can come as early as mid-teens.


OP, I'm sorry for what you and your family are going through. Your child is suffering greatly and I know it gets harder and harder everyday to feel empathy but you need to get her real help asap.

The problem is that you won't find anything even close to proper help in Louisiana. Your best chance for now is finding a bed for her at New Orleans Childrens Hospital. While she's there, you can get some help to start researching intensive residential treatment centers in other states. I would start in Liberty, Texas.

It will cost you because insurance won't fully cover any treatment center worth sending her to. Also, look for staff to child ratio's of 1 to 5 or less. I wouldn't push higher than that until she's had some treatment and you all find some stability.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
74618 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:26 pm to
This thread might be the OT’s finest hour. I’m proud of yall.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67709 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:26 pm to
The right partner can work wonders. A close friend of mine has had bpd for years. She was always erratic, had trouble holding down jobs, would constantly cycle through friend groups, and was generally incredibly self-destructive. She had been forcefully committed due to suicide attempts after a bad breakup, voluntarily gone for addiction at times, etc.

After years of watching her spin her wheels as she started making a concerted effort to improve herself (mostly through therapy, art, and treating people better), she finally decided to be vulnerable and get into a serious relationship with the man whom she’d been in love with but sorta kept at arm’s length for a couple years out of fear of being hurt. Instead of running from her feelings or trying to string along a situationship, or asking for friends with benefits while spiraling out of jealousy because he could see other women, she actually told him her true feelings and demanded a real relationship or nothing.

They’ve been dating seriously for just under a year now, and she’s completely changed in a positive way. While she’s still not the best employee one could find, her habits are so much healthier, she’s no longer acting out for attention or abusing alcohol to make friends. She’s still prone to emotional swings, but usually over real problems and not just problems she manifests in her head. She’s got a stable home life, great friends, constructive hobbies, and she’s even going to church.

It turned out that when she finally allowed herself to be vulnerable and put her insecurities on the table, she found someone who embraced her completely and healthily. Just getting that unconditional love was most of what it took to completely turn her entire life around. It turned out that much of her negative behavior stemmed from craving attention and validation. Now that she has that, she no longer seems to seek the attention. I’m super proud of my friend even if I “lost” my favorite drinking buddy
This post was edited on 4/29/24 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Leotiger725
Member since Jan 2021
824 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:31 pm to
Update

I got her committed today to a long term facility in South Texas

I hope that the counselors will hold her to account and not be manipulated. Thank you for the advice and kindness. I hope none of you have to deal with this or even interact with this type of behavior. The Lord will provide.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11726 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:32 pm to
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I have prayed over her


I am shocked that this didn't work
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14644 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:37 pm to
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Update I got her committed today to a long term facility in South Texas

I hope that the counselors will hold her to account and not be manipulated. Thank you for the advice and kindness. I hope none of you have to deal with this or even interact with this type of behavior. The Lord will provide.


That’s great news. It’s just the first step but I hope it helps you all to get a better understanding of what she’s suffering with and to get her on the medication regimen that suits her best. Finding the right medication is key and not as simple as most think.
Posted by GEAUXT
Member since Nov 2007
29777 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:45 pm to
God bless you
Posted by Leotiger725
Member since Jan 2021
824 posts
Posted on 4/29/24 at 4:49 pm to
Big Scrub

You are a nut and mushrooms and MDMA are not the answer. Maybe for adult veterans suffering from PTSD, but not a 12 year old girl.

I disagree with everything you post on TD.
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