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Government is Targeting Small Farms in Oregon with satellites and shutting them down
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:48 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:48 am
This is a happening because of new legislation passed in the name of “water conservation”.
Two Rules:
1. Any size farm with a “concrete or gravel floor” that houses animals (even is just one chicken) aka a CAFO farm is being targeted from space
2. Small farms that can’t get a commercial permit as an exemption that uses less than 5000 gallons are being sent cease and desist letters (exemption doesn’t include irrigation of land). State of Oregon is putting water flow measurement devices on farmers’ wells to confirm the amount.
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TLDR; personal farms are being made illegal and only government approved commercial farms are being allowed to exist.
Coming to a state near you, protecting big business and handcuffing the people like cattle.
Two Rules:
1. Any size farm with a “concrete or gravel floor” that houses animals (even is just one chicken) aka a CAFO farm is being targeted from space
2. Small farms that can’t get a commercial permit as an exemption that uses less than 5000 gallons are being sent cease and desist letters (exemption doesn’t include irrigation of land). State of Oregon is putting water flow measurement devices on farmers’ wells to confirm the amount.
LINK
TLDR; personal farms are being made illegal and only government approved commercial farms are being allowed to exist.
Coming to a state near you, protecting big business and handcuffing the people like cattle.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 10:49 am
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Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:49 am to theunknownknight
Federal, state, local, or all of the above are targeting farms?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:50 am to theunknownknight
They’re trying to stop people from being able to grow their own food, purposely induce a famine, and then blame it on climate change. Our government is plotting a genocide against its own citizens.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:51 am to theunknownknight
Sounds like something the Empire from Star Wars would do
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:51 am to theunknownknight
Jewish Space Lasers, again?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:51 am to theunknownknight
If only the people of Oregon believed in the 2A and could deter these types of agencies from doing things like this…
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:53 am to theunknownknight
I registered my garden so it's all good.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:53 am to theunknownknight
Who passed this legislation?
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:54 am to theunknownknight
30 years ago the WHO was talking about controlling flower and vegetable seeds through licensing. No license, no seed. They were aiming at family then and still are.
Control
It’s all about control over individuals. Control the individual and you control society.
Control
It’s all about control over individuals. Control the individual and you control society.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 10:56 am to theunknownknight
Satellites are a windfall for oppressive regimes.
"Looks like you've upgraded your property... Would be a shame if you forgot you had to get a permit for that..."
"Looks like you've upgraded your property... Would be a shame if you forgot you had to get a permit for that..."
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:00 am to theunknownknight
There's a thought that fills your mind
A vision of time
When knowledge was confined
And then we wonder how machines
Can steal each other's dreams
From points that are unseen... It's real
I will remember
You will remember
The star that came tonight
I Will RememberI
A vision of time
When knowledge was confined
And then we wonder how machines
Can steal each other's dreams
From points that are unseen... It's real
I will remember
You will remember
The star that came tonight
I Will RememberI
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:00 am to theunknownknight
quote:
State of Oregon is putting water flow measurement devices on farmers’ wells to confirm the amount.
My well identifies as a solar panel so I'm good.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:01 am to theunknownknight
Not hard to figure out why this is happening.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:02 am to theunknownknight
quote:
State of Oregon is putting water flow measurement devices on farmers’ wells to confirm the amount
I have no idea what happened to that thing y'all attached to my well. Honest.
Also... Hmm... looks like we need to put in another well... call our well guy...
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:10 am to theunknownknight
Solar “farms” incoming.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:18 am to theunknownknight
This type of stuff happens all the time when government enacts policy without adequately understanding the operations they are regulating.
There are already multiple lawsuits against this policy, and the State has already backed off the small CAFO policy/definition.
I believe that the farmers are going to win this battle fairly easily, as there are already similar cases that could be used as precedent.
Still, they shouldn't have to have these battles. Just typical regulators trying to justify their existence.
There are already multiple lawsuits against this policy, and the State has already backed off the small CAFO policy/definition.
I believe that the farmers are going to win this battle fairly easily, as there are already similar cases that could be used as precedent.
Still, they shouldn't have to have these battles. Just typical regulators trying to justify their existence.
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:19 am to theunknownknight
Under Oregon law, all water belongs to the public. With some exceptions, cities, irrigators, businesses, and other water users must obtain a permit or license from the Water Resources Department to use water from any source - whether it is underground, or from lakes or streams.
Oregon water rights are determined by the principle of prior appropriation, rather than riparian rights. This means that a senior water rights holder has priority access to water resources, based on the date that the permit was first applied for. In the case of a water shortage, senior users aren’t required to conserve resources for junior users, but any surplus water beyond what’s used or allocated will go to the junior user, and so on down the line.
Senior users don’t have carte blanche to use the water for any purpose, though. Their application for a surface or groundwater permit must specify a “beneficial use.”
Oregon water rights are determined by the principle of prior appropriation, rather than riparian rights. This means that a senior water rights holder has priority access to water resources, based on the date that the permit was first applied for. In the case of a water shortage, senior users aren’t required to conserve resources for junior users, but any surplus water beyond what’s used or allocated will go to the junior user, and so on down the line.
Senior users don’t have carte blanche to use the water for any purpose, though. Their application for a surface or groundwater permit must specify a “beneficial use.”
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:22 am to theunknownknight
Break out your checkbook and fund some political campaigns like Tyson/Monsanto then you can have a say in what laws get passed.
Commercials aren't cheap, and good luck getting an American to vote for you if you don't have a commercial
Commercials aren't cheap, and good luck getting an American to vote for you if you don't have a commercial
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 11:25 am
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:41 am to theunknownknight
Water conservation is a real thing. Dunno what the situation is in Oregon though, id figure they get plenty of rainfall to replenish the supply but I'm not a hydrologist
Posted on 3/27/24 at 11:45 am to theunknownknight
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Small farms that can’t get a commercial permit as an exemption that uses less than 5000 gallons are being sent cease and desist letters (exemption doesn’t include irrigation of land). State of Oregon is putting water flow measurement devices on farmers’ wells to confirm the amount.
LA rice and crawfish farmers say, "Welcome to the party."
Changing the definition of CAFO to be that broad is bullshite. (Glad it's already been reversed.)
These appear to be two different issues. Groundwater is a public resource in Oregon and I'm not opposed to requiring the use of said public resource to be permitted. Tragedy of the Commons and such. It appears that the water use issue isn't a case of new laws or regulations, but rather enforcement of existing laws that have been overlooked/ignored.
They should have acquired water use rights a long time ago. Especially since water rights are first come first served in Oregon.
This post was edited on 3/27/24 at 11:49 am
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