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re: Getting contacted by work during vacation
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:13 am to Big4SALTbro
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:13 am to Big4SALTbro
This ^^^^
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Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Some of us are uber competitive, some arent. Its easy to tell here. If you arent, its fine. But dont get butthurt by those going balls to the wall.
And what competitive field are you “going balls to the wall” in?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:15 am to DVA Tailgater
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What are you winning? A heart attack or stroke? Congrats?
Would answering a text on vacation cause you heart attack or stroke?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:15 am to FlyinTiger93
Just flip the burgers when they are ready and take the fries out when the bell rings. Why would you need to call me?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:16 am to DVA Tailgater
quote:it's funny how some of you associate answering a quick phone call or text at 10am on a Tuesday with stress and running yourself into the ground
What are you winning? A heart attack or stroke? Congrats?
no wonder this country is going to shite
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Would answering a text on vacation cause you heart attack or stroke?
That's not what the OP and many others is describing.
Getting "bombarded" to the point of having to speak with management over the frequency of calls/texts isn't just "a text on vacation".
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:17 am to BluegrassBelle
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IMO that's different then the expectation that you answer calls at a clip that your PTO is no longer PTO like the OP was describing.
true, but someone in the story sucks at his job. Either the manager or the guy on vacation.
I treat my vacation like I am a mafia boss. Try to limit the number of people that can reach me directly.
That said, i am going on vacation next week. I have a project running 24/7. They'll know I am gone but the project is making my year. I am going to answer within a reasonable time if that customer calls.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:19 am to blueridgeTiger
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I was once called back to the office on an "emergency" from a resort with my family and friends. I was po'ed, but what can you do?
In this situation, I would've told them they can stick the job up their asses if they have a problem with me not canceling my family vacation
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:19 am to AbitaFan08
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And what competitive field are you “going balls to the wall” in?
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:21 am to LSUfan4444
Lol. That’s completely false
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:21 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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no wonder this country is going to shite
People are overworked, underpaid, and underappreciated. No one is ever "offline". The expectation is to always be available. No consideration is ever given to the life or health of others. Everyone wants everything, and they want it now. This is not sustainable. We need to slow down.
Redundancies and cross-training have been cut to the bone, and the results speak for themselves. Profit over people.
30-40 years ago, life went on if you were out of the office because it had to.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:22 am to AbitaFan08
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And what competitive field are you “going balls to the wall” in?
Not a thing now.
In fact I am at the end of a two month vacation. Havent checked an email. They tend to get rid of hard workers here. I supervise union people.
I'm just riding it into retirement, where I will start my own biz.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:22 am to Jenious
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I have a co-worker who' currently on vacation with his family and apparently he'd being bombarded with text messages/emails. I just overheard him telling one of the managers(VERY loudly) that he would like to be able to enjoy his much needed vacation.
What's the OT's take on this? Do you answer emails/texts/calls on vacation?
It better be extremely critical if I'm being contacted while on vacation.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:23 am to RogerTheShrubber
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RogerTheShrubber
Roger you would never make it in my work setting. You would get beat up and stuffed in a mop closet
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:23 am to DVA Tailgater
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People are overworked, underpaid, and underappreciated. No one is ever "offline". The expectation is to always be available. No consideration is ever given to the life or health of others. Everyone wants everything, and they want it now. This is not sustainable. We need to slow down.
Redundancies and cross-training have been cut to the bone, and the results speak for themselves. Profit over people.
30-40 years ago, life went on if you were out of the office because it had to.
While there's a lot of benefits to WFH in industries where you're able to do so, one of the cons that have come up is this. We were never meant to be available 100% of the time.
I imagine this will have as much of an impact on rising heart attack and stroke rates in coming years as anything.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:25 am to Jenious
I take my PTO and don't respond to shite. The company should not give PTO if they don't want you to use it.
People allow themselves to be taken advantage of by their companies. Work hard and do your job well during work hours so you have a leg to stand on when you man up for yourself.
It's not that complicated.
People allow themselves to be taken advantage of by their companies. Work hard and do your job well during work hours so you have a leg to stand on when you man up for yourself.
It's not that complicated.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:25 am to DVA Tailgater
quote:are they really though
People are overworked, underpaid, and underappreciated. No one is ever "offline". T
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:25 am to DVA Tailgater
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30-40 years ago, life went on if you were out of the office because it had to.
They also micromanaged your leave.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:25 am to Jenious
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apparently he'd being bombarded with text messages/emails. I just overheard him telling one of the managers(VERY loudly) that he would like to be able to enjoy his much needed vacation.
I can understand being bent out of shape if you’re getting blown up with text messages on vacation, particularly if it’s coming from your manager.
Emails, though? Get a grip. That’s completely within the employee’s control - if you don’t want to look at your email on vacation then.. well.. don’t look at it. It’s pretty easy.
The employee certainly has some responsibility to set themselves and the company up for success while they’re out though. IMHO, that generally means:
1. Communicating to people you’re actively working with that you’ll be out.
2. Either tying up loose ends/urgent items (that can’t wait until you return) before you leave, or making sure someone else can pick them up while you’re out.
3. Setting an out of office reply that tells people A) that you’re out, B) when you will return, C) whether you will be checking/responding to emails, and D) who to contact in your absence if it can’t wait.
It’s not really that difficult. If you’ve done these things nobody can be upset if you then proceed to ignore emails until you get back. A lot of people will say that delegating ongoing work is your manager’s job and that’s fine if you’re in a role that requires micromanagement. But if so, don’t complain about being micromanaged - it’s a two-way street.
I think what really rubs other people the wrong way, and leads to your phone getting blown up on vacation, is when someone just rolls out in the middle of some time-sensitive/critical work, they’re the only person who knows what’s going on, and they don’t even attempt to pass that info off to someone else before they leave.
Posted on 3/20/24 at 11:26 am to Dire Wolf
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That said, i am going on vacation next week. I have a project running 24/7. They'll know I am gone but the project is making my year. I am going to answer within a reasonable time if that customer calls.
There are two separate conversations going on here.
If you want to be bothered on your vacation because you put yourself on the spot like that, so be it. Answering a quick question is no big deal. However, don't complain if one quick text turns into a larger chunk of your time.
When you're on vacation, you should make it pretty clear what your boundaries are. I feel that if you take any type of vacation, be completely cut away from your job. If you want to leave that door open, that's on you. Every job should have failsafe measures so that when you leave, your job can be taken care of for a short period of time. It's not like people are taking over your job for several months. A week or two should be manageable by the staff around you, and the same should be said about your coworkers when they want to take their own time off.
If you're being proactive, you should let people know that you will be out instead of them finding out you're gone with an automatic email reply that shows you'll be out. I've always let customers/coworkers know when I'm leaving and who will be taking over when I'm out. I also try to get as much done before I leave, with future work set up so that no one has questions while I'm out. It isn't that difficult to set up. This can be done for any job.
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