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re: Thoughts on this/chasing down thief and killing him

Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:27 pm to
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
18929 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:27 pm to
150 years ago the neighbors would get together, hunt these guys down and hang them from a tree. Horses were the same as cars then.
Posted by MemphisGuy
Member since Nov 2023
3574 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:30 pm to
I ain't losing sleep that a thief is dead... but once he left the property, there was no longer an imminent threat. Dude is screwed.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9421 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:33 pm to
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not something I’d consider generally reasonable

Does Texas go by the law or by Indefatigable's personal opinions?
Posted by Hawgnsincebirth55
Gods country
Member since Sep 2016
16114 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:34 pm to
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Bunch of TD Hardos advocating for chasing someone down and mudering them for theft. I hope you try this and get shot.
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Barry
F@G
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 1:34 pm
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9421 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:35 pm to
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but once he left the property, there was no longer an imminent threat.

Google Joe Horn Texas 2007.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
19722 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:35 pm to
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Yep, may have spent years of his life working for it.


This is why I believe certain property crimes should allow for lethal force.

Wallet? No
Breaking into my shed? Perhaps
Car? Yes
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8647 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:35 pm to
Put me on the jury. He walks
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9421 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:36 pm to
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Bunch of TD Hardos advocating for chasing someone down and mudering them for theft. I hope you try this and get shot.

So you think the victim of theft is more deserving of being shot than the thief? Says everything anyone needs to know about you.
Posted by Quatrepot
Member since Jun 2023
4072 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:38 pm to
I’m surprised that’s not legal in Texas
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114069 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:40 pm to
If someone steals something over a certain value it should be completely legal for the owner to kill that person. It should be pretty simple, if someone does steal something of value then they are willing to risk their life to steal it.

People should have rights in their favor to protect their shite.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26732 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:42 pm to
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Does Texas go by the law or by Indefatigable's personal opinions?

Texas charged him with murder, so you tell me.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6855 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:42 pm to
this doesn't seem like it should be a crime on it's face, but the issue is you can't legally have people just shooting at a moving vehicle in the middle of the streets. if he misses and hits an innocent bystander then shite is even worse. I understand that he didn't, but laws are made for everyone. If this guy is allowed to legally shoot in traffic chasing a stolen vehicle, then someone else with much worse aim would be allowed to do the same.

hopefully the judge uses the fact he didn't hit anyone else to give him the lightest sentence possible for discharging a firearm in public. he shouldnt be charged with murder though, the dude stole his car.
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
8732 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:43 pm to
Couple of things:

The perps buddy was in on a crime that lead to a death. There are some laws that tar and feather the guys who are there for the crime with serious offenses.

Harris County, you say? How in the heck are they going to find a jury where no one they know or are related to has been affected by vehicle theft? Or will it be a jury of family and friends of other car theft perps? How do you decide jury composition in any urban area?
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
4256 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:44 pm to
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but in no way is it ok to chase someone down and open fire into the vehicle in any sort of decent society
Well, we don't live in a decent society anymore.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6855 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:45 pm to
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he reasonably believes that the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means


Check

why did you put a check next to this? this is debatable IMO. other means would include calling the cops and reporting the crime haha
Posted by Asleepinthecove
Member since Jan 2023
956 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:50 pm to
He can claim that he thought his life was in danger when he approached the subject by the side and suspected he was pointing a gun at him.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6855 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:50 pm to
LINK
Felony Discharge of a Firearm From a Vehicle
It is a second-degree felony to knowingly and willfully discharge a firearm from a vehicle within 1,000 feet of any person. The driver of the vehicle, if the driver is not the person who discharged the firearm from within the vehicle, can also be charged with a felony in the third degree if he knowingly directs any person to discharge any firearm from the vehicle.

Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9421 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:55 pm to
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Texas charged him with murder, so you tell me.

Was he convicted? You can indict a ham sandwich.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9421 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 1:58 pm to
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It is a second-degree felony to knowingly and willfully discharge a firearm from a vehicle within 1,000 feet of any person.

Look at this moron. Apparently he thinks nobody can ever defend their life if they are sitting in a vehicle.
Posted by UKWildcats
Lexington, KY
Member since Mar 2015
17266 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 2:01 pm to
Not guilty
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