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Thoughts on this/chasing down thief and killing him

Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:28 pm
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
78949 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:28 pm
Man charged with murder after shooting, killing man who allegedly stole his car from north Harris Co. apartment complex

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HARRIS COUNTY, Texas — A man was found dead with gunshot wounds after he crashed into a parked car in north Harris County, according to Sheriff Ed Gonzalez. This happened shortly before 4 a.m. on Golden Eagle Drive, which is near Beltway 8 and Mesa Drive. Gonzalez said the man, who was in his late teens or early 20s, had been shot in an incident involving a gray SUV before the crash. The vehicle he had been driving, a black sedan, was reported stolen from a nearby apartment complex.

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The owner of the black sedan admitted to deputies that he drove his wife's SUV and chased the vehicle being driven by the young man along with an unknown male passenger, according to Gonzalez. Gonzalez said when the alleged car theft suspect refused to stop driving, Caples fired shots into the car, causing him to crash. He was later found dead by deputies. His identity has not been released.


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Fwiw, I’m a believer of taking back what is rightfully yours.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61137 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:30 pm to
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He was later found dead by deputies. His identity has not been released.


Probably because he's an ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260058 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Fwiw, I’m a believer of taking back what is rightfully yours.


Yep, may have spent years of his life working for it.
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3116 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:32 pm to
The value of life becomes net negative when you steal from others.

Not guilty
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
123961 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:32 pm to
I wouldn't convict him
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
905 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:32 pm to
Legally speaking, he's technically okay. Morally speaking, no issue with the killing of thieves.

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A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property:

(1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and

(2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or

(B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and

(3) he reasonably believes that:

(A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or

(B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 12:33 pm
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
12423 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:33 pm to
We should calculate how much tax payer money that guy saved and give him a tax credit or something. At least a Best Buy gift card maybe. He just did the world a favor. Took out a shite bag and saved us the expense of keeping that shite bag alive in the pokey for the rest of his life.
Posted by rickyh
Positiger Nation
Member since Dec 2003
12455 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:33 pm to
vehicle being driven by the young man

They left off the words stolen and car thief
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71347 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:34 pm to
Idiot shouldn't have talked to cops without a lawyer.

Never, ever, ever talk to the cops without a lawyer if you are anything other than an ancillary character in an event you have literally no connection with.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26079 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:34 pm to
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Gonzalez said when the alleged car theft suspect refused to stop driving, Caples fired shots into the car, causing him to crash

I’m all for thieves catching a bullet, but there is a reasonable limit on defending your property. Following the car and shooting at him while driving down the road probably crosses over that line.

This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10948 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:35 pm to
The explosion in criminality is going to lead to more vigilante action and a lot of jury nullification. That might be the most effective deterrent. I won't be surprised when citizens go that route when faced with a system that favors the criminal over the law abiding citizen.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26079 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:35 pm to
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Legally speaking, he's technically okay.

Idk about that. All imminent threat ended when the guy left in the car.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
5361 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:35 pm to
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ILLEGAL ALIEN


FIFY
Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
10948 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:39 pm to
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I’m all for thieves catching a bullet, but there is a reasonable limit on defending your property. Following the car and shooting at him while driving probably crosses over that line.


Why should the property owner be restrained here? He's the one being violated and wronged.
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2256 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:42 pm to
If enough of them get shot maybe they will stop stealing.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14860 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:44 pm to
I’d vote not guilty 100 percent. We need more of this
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26079 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:46 pm to
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Why should the property owner be restrained here? He's the one being violated and wronged.

I get that.

Just pointing out that gunfire between moving vehicles is not something I’d consider generally reasonable without imminent threat to your life.
This post was edited on 3/10/24 at 12:47 pm
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
53737 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:48 pm to
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Fwiw, I’m a believer of taking back what is rightfully yours.

As am I, but that doesn't trump the law. That dude is going to prison for a while.
Posted by GasMan
north Mississippi
Member since Sep 2003
1047 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:48 pm to
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I’d vote not guilty 100 percent. We need more of this


A hell of a lot more.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
905 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 12:49 pm to
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Idk about that. All imminent threat ended when the guy left in the car.


That's because you A) don't know the law and B) can't read.

I posted Texas law concerning the Use of Deadly Force to Protect Property.

"Imminent threat" has nothing to do with it.
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