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Reddit's 2023 EBITA -$69.3 million

Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:20 am
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Member since Sep 2008
36823 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:20 am
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So, Reddit finally filed for an IPO. After nearly 20 years, starting on its own, being acquired by Condé Nast Publications in 2006, spun out in 2011.

Having a long gestation as a private company getting investment dollars isn’t unusual today. For a number of years now, the trend has been to see increasingly long years of waiting to seek an exit so investors can allow the company to develop. To strengthen. To build a capability of making money.

Which makes Reddit’s filing — its S-1 using technical terms — so interesting is that it’s taken so long to still be losing money by the truckful. That’s $232,432.87 a day, or nearly $9,685 an hour.

Maybe this has something to do why Condé Nast’s parent, Advance Publications, waved goodbye to Reddit so many years ago.

The company calls itself an “emerging growth company” by the definition of the JOBS Act, and will continue to be until any one of the three following conditions happens: their revenue at least equals $1.235 billion; they reach the last day of the fiscal year following the fifth anniversary of the IPO offering; they reach the date on which during a previous three-year period in which they issue more than $1 billion in non-convertible debt; or, under the Exchange Act, they’re deemed a “large accelerated filer.”


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So, Reddit finally filed for an IPO. After nearly 20 years, starting on its own, being acquired by Condé Nast Publications in 2006, spun out in 2011.

Having a long gestation as a private company getting investment dollars isn’t unusual today. For a number of years now, the trend has been to see increasingly long years of waiting to seek an exit so investors can allow the company to develop. To strengthen. To build a capability of making money.

Which makes Reddit’s filing — its S-1 using technical terms — so interesting is that it’s taken so long to still be losing money by the truckful. That’s $232,432.87 a day, or nearly $9,685 an hour.

Maybe this has something to do why Condé Nast’s parent, Advance Publications, waved goodbye to Reddit so many years ago.

The company calls itself an “emerging growth company” by the definition of the JOBS Act, and will continue to be until any one of the three following conditions happens: their revenue at least equals $1.235 billion; they reach the last day of the fiscal year following the fifth anniversary of the IPO offering; they reach the date on which during a previous three-year period in which they issue more than $1 billion in non-convertible debt; or, under the Exchange Act, they’re deemed a “large accelerated filer.”

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There are 54 pages of risk factors, which, after reading many S-1 filings over the years, seems pretty long. One of the most notable is the sentence, “We have incurred substantial losses during our history and may never achieve profitability.”

There are companies that have said that in the past, but they were much younger. AmazonAMZN +0.9% has a reputation of being unprofitable for a very long time, but in the last quarter of 2001, it had its first profitable quarter. That was about seven years after the company started running out of the garage of Jeff Bezos.



FedExFDX +1% had a notable period of losses, which included acquisition of a huge amount of capital equipment like warehouses, planes, and trucks. It hit profitability for the first time four years after it started in 1971.




After two decades, Reddit still warns that it’s not making money. Losses can eventually be useful for companies when they can carry them forward and finally offset profits, but the profits do have to come. At the end of 2023, the company has $216.7 million in federal and $177.1 million of state net operating losses (NOLs) to carry. The state ones are gone in 2026 if there aren’t profits to apply them to. Federal NOLs through 2017 can only be carried for 20 years to fully offset taxable income. After 2017, due to the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act, they can be carried indefinitely to offset only 80% of taxable income annually. So, the losses at this point are theoretically helpful, but practically? Who knows?

In 2023, the company’s revenue was $804.0 million. Research and development, at $438.3 million, was more than half, an awfully big number for a company of this age. Total costs and expenses were $944.2 million. The net loss was $90.8 million, which at least is an improvement over 2022, with its $666.7 million in revenue and $158.6 million in losses.

Reddit favors non-standard accounting metrics like adjusted EBITDA (earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation, and amortization). The adjusted part include “stock-based compensation expense and related taxes, other (income) expense, net, and certain other non-recurring or non-cash items impacting net income (loss) that we do not consider indicative of our ongoing business performance.” Which makes it tough to know exactly what’s being included or excluded.

The adjusted EBITDA in 2023 was still -$69.3 million.

And they like free cash flow as a “liquidity measure.” Free cash flow in 2023 was -$84.8 million. In 2022, it was -$100.3 million.


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This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 10:21 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124925 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:21 am to
Where the nudes are?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425744 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:22 am to
One of the major AI players is going to buy Reddit
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
135211 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:23 am to
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One of the major AI players is going to buy Reddit

There's no way they could make that place any more pathetic
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:24 am to
They're broke like their users. Perfect match imo
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
23987 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:26 am to
I'm not surprised. I've gone on Reddit two or three times and it is incomprehensible. Useless.

Another similar experience is Threads. I went on that recently and apparently all you can do is look at whatever pops up and scroll to the next. A waste of time.

I don't know how these things get so big.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 10:28 am
Posted by PrecedentedTimes
Member since Dec 2020
3128 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:27 am to
Because they’re kept afloat by the intelligence community. The sole purpose of the ‘karma’ system is to reinforce the narrative.

If karma was turned off, it would turn into post-Elon twitter within a day.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
425744 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:28 am to
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There's no way they could make that place any more pathetic


Reddit has one of the most vast sources of human language that isn't owned by one of the big boys.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
15906 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:29 am to
Elon kickstarted this massive wave of tech layoffs.
80% of the salaries are gone at Twitter and it still runs just fine. Same needs to happen at Reddit. All they have to do is just maintain the IT side of it.
Posted by TheSadvocate
North Shore
Member since Aug 2020
3873 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:33 am to
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Reddit


I made the mistake of commenting on a political post there with something positive Trump did. You would swear I told everyone of those nerds that I was banging their mom or something. The onslaught of negative comments, downvotes and messages was off the charts. Never seen such a triggered group of people.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:35 am to
It's a complete hive mind of broke losers. The site is very predictable
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20634 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:36 am to
Reddit has as many ads as facebook these days, how are they losing money? It sure sounds like they are paying off their owners by "paying" some third party companies for R&D. Most forums have free admins, what the hell are they paying $400 mil for R&D to do?

Gotta be a lot of shenanigans at the C-Suite level with their financials.
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
6025 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:38 am to
Makes sense. Place is a prog echo chamber where any mildly dissenting opinion gets banned from a sub and destroys user engagement. Curious what their numbers would be if they dropped their commie mods.
Posted by 9Fiddy
19th Hole
Member since Jan 2007
64284 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:39 am to
An IPO with a -$70M EBITA for a 20 year old firm…

This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 10:40 am
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13270 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:48 am to
Everyone bashing Reddit is just jealous they’re not a mod like me. They crave the power that comes with being a mod but don’t have the intellect required.

I would ban you all so quick if you came to my subreddit that covers Gender Themes in Rick & Morty. You wouldn’t know what hit you, you simpletons.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111288 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 10:58 am to
People that hate Reddit and Twitter really just don't know how to use either.

If you can't find people to follow on Twitter or subreddits that are interesting are thing you like or have in common with, then it seems you're just seeking out stuff you don't like so you can scream and whine about it...which is kinda how many people use social media if we're being honest.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 10:59 am
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
55435 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 11:07 am to
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People that hate Reddit and Twitter really just don't know how to use either.

This is true. Or, as I have said for a long time, Xwitter is exactly and only what you make it. Reddit is pretty much the same.

Too many people choose to be miserable and only follow shite that will piss them off. That's all they look for. Then, when they find it they cry about it and blame everyone but themselves, the person who went looking for something and found it. They're similar to the people that constantly say that all you can buy on Amazon is cheap chinese shite.

I follow woodworking and Strongman subreddits. No issues with either, but for during World's Strongest Man when casual fans show up to shite all over the place.
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 11:09 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69361 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 11:10 am to
Funny that redditors like to shite on the rich and corporations and people who make shite loads of money like Elon.


Guess they will all move off reddit to not be a hypocrite right?

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In anticipation to Reddit's IPO, it was revealed that Huffman’s compensation package for 2023 was worth $193.2 million



Lol
This post was edited on 2/29/24 at 11:13 am
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
3620 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 11:10 am to
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Because they’re kept afloat by the intelligence community. The sole purpose of the ‘karma’ system is to reinforce the narrative.


Meaning our tax dollars fund it. Or, like Bukele recently explained, our tax dollars funding stuff is just an illusion they use to blind us to the reality that money-printing is actually what funds it.

Which means that Reddit is being kept afloat as part of the giant scheme to enrich the elite while making us all struggle.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158842 posts
Posted on 2/29/24 at 11:14 am to
yeah...if you use reddit for political/news purposes, you'll of course hate it.

I have several subs I check out pretty often. Also use it pretty often to look up reviews on products I'm looking at purchasing.
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