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Indiana parents warn nation after child is removed from home for improper pronoun usage
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:39 pm
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Parents ask Supreme Court to hold Indiana responsible for removing transgender child from their home
A Catholic couple in Indiana is asking the Supreme Court to hold the state accountable for keeping their child out of their home after they declined to use his chosen name and pronouns.
In M.C. and J.C. v. Indiana Department of Child Services, Mary and Jeremy Cox are appealing to the Supreme Court after they were investigated by Indiana officials for refusing to refer to their son using pronouns and a name inconsistent with his biological sex.
Becket is pursuing the case on behalf of the Coxes, arguing state courts allowed Indiana to keep the child from living in his parents' home due to their disagreement with the child's gender identity because of their religious beliefs. Notably, upon completing the investigation, the state determined the allegations of abuse against Mary and Jeremy were unsubstantiated, but still argued that the disagreement over gender identity was distressing to their child.
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In addition, the Coxes believed their son was struggling with underlying mental health conditions, including an eating disorder, so they sought therapeutic care for both.
But, in 2021, Indiana officials began investigating the Coxes after a report found they were not referring to their child by his preferred gender identity, removing the teen from their custody and placing him in a "gender-affirming" home. Despite the unsubstantiated claims of abuse, they claimed the Coxes made the child's eating disorder worse even though it worsened after he was removed and placed in a transition-affirming home.
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When the case was first heard in trial court, Indiana officials argued the child "should be in a home where she is [ac]cepted for who she is" and restricted the Coxes’ visitation time to a few hours once a week, which barred them from speaking to him about their religious views on human sexuality and gender identity. Even though the court determined the Coxes were fit parents, it upheld the removal of their child which was later upheld by the appeals court.
"If this can happen in Indiana, it can happen anywhere," Windhamn said. "Tearing a child away from loving parents because of their religious beliefs, which are shared by millions of Americans, is an outrage to the law, parental rights, and basic human decency. If the Supreme Court doesn’t take this case, how many times will this happen to other families?"
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:41 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
This country is falling into the deepest pits of hell. There's a man and a woman. End of story
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:43 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Didn't Indiana somehow recently elected a "moderate" Democrat Governor? That's literally the only reason this happened.
Kinda like how LA (a top 10 conservative state) somehow had some of the strictest COVID lockdowns because of its retarded looking "moderate" Democrat Governor.
Kinda like how LA (a top 10 conservative state) somehow had some of the strictest COVID lockdowns because of its retarded looking "moderate" Democrat Governor.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:45 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Hard to overstate how scary this is. We have to be getting close to a tipping point with this stuff.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:47 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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There would be bloodshed.
100%
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:49 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
This is kidnapping and everyone involved should be prosecuted.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:50 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
LINK
Here's an Indiana Law review of the case since most of the links are Christian sites. Seems the child was removed due to abuse/eating disorder more than the trans thing, but that would be harder to claim victimhood over.
It remained home for 2 years after declaring itself trans.
Hope this child received some help before it had any kind of gender reassignment surgery
Here's an Indiana Law review of the case since most of the links are Christian sites. Seems the child was removed due to abuse/eating disorder more than the trans thing, but that would be harder to claim victimhood over.
It remained home for 2 years after declaring itself trans.
Hope this child received some help before it had any kind of gender reassignment surgery
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In 2019, the Coxes’ son informed them that he identified as a girl. But because of their religious belief that God creates human beings with immutable sex — male or female — they could not refer to their child using pronouns and a name inconsistent with what was given at birth.
In 2021, the Indiana Department of Child Services began investigating the Coxes following two reports that they were suspected of abusing or neglecting their child.
“The court emphasized that it was not removing A.C. from the parents’ home due to a disagreement or ‘a child having a certain lifestyle that the parent[s] don’t agree with.’ … ‘There ha[ve] always been issues’ when ‘children do things that the parents don’t agree with,’ the court explained, and those disagreements are ‘not a reason to remove a child from a home,’” according to the state’s brief.
The court ordered A.C. to participate in eating disorder treatment and individual therapy and also ordered the parents and A.C. to continue family therapy. Additionally, the court left in place its order limiting discussion about transgenderism during visitations. The court agreed that it was acceptable to have discussions about A.C. and the parents’ beliefs about gender identity.
“In fact, ‘at some point they have to have that conversation.’ The court emphasized that these conversations should occur within the ‘family therapy that is being ordered’ because of the connection between these conversations and A.C.’s anorexia,” according to the state.
In 2022, Mary and Jeremy appealed the trial court’s orders to the Court of Appeals of Indiana, which affirmed. They then sought rehearing, which the Court of Appeals denied.
Meanwhile, A.C. turned 18 years old and DCS terminated the case.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:52 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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"gender-affirming" home
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:01 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Imagine The State making it compulsory that you use language that is false ( lies) or you use your parental rights. Make no mistake about it, this could never have happened if the Democrat Party had not initially pandered to this and then eventually began to promote it. The only way to defeat Progressive insanity is to beat Democrats in elections and then remove them one by one from state bureaucracies. This is going to be a total rebuild.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:07 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
There are entirely too many people in this country who are just fine with parents getting their kids taken from them because of bullshite like this. Hell, there are too many on this board who are accepting of it. Everyone involved with removing that child from his parents should be lined up in front of a firing squad and shot on national TV.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:10 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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When the case was first heard in trial court, Indiana officials argued the child "should be in a home where she is [ac]cepted for who she is"
Ironic considering the entire premise of the trans agenda is not accepting what you were born as.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:11 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
'Identity was distressing to their child'
They should distress his arse with a belt.
They should distress his arse with a belt.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:28 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
I admit I thought this was Fake News when I read about it, but...my God it's true. I would not think this is possible in the USA but there it is.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:28 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
I can't even imagine telling my parents "refer to me as a girl and I am not joking"... ![](https://images.tigerdroppings.com/Images/Icons/IconLOL.gif)
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:34 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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disagreement with the child's gender identity because of their religious beliefs.
Religious beliefs? How about because once a male ALWAYS a male. The English language doesn’t change just because you wish you had a pussy. Clown fricking world!!!
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:38 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
This is what happens when the scum of the earth have actual real power.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:41 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
OT Moderates and Progressives approve, especially since the family admits to being Catholic.
The OT Moderates and Progressives would support a Muslim family's objections to this, however. Please do not ask to explain the difference. You are too stupid to get it.
The OT Moderates and Progressives would support a Muslim family's objections to this, however. Please do not ask to explain the difference. You are too stupid to get it.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:47 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
quote:M.C. v. Ind. Dep't of Child Servs. (In re A.C.)
The evidence in support of the Dispositional Order shows that on May 11, 2021, DCS received a report alleging that Mother was verbally and emotionally abusing then-sixteen-year-old Child by using rude and demeaning language toward Child regarding Child's transgender identity, and as a result, Child had thoughts of self-harm. Appellants' App. Vol. 2 at 13-14. On May 21, 2021, DCS received a second report alleging that the Parents were verbally and emotionally abusing Child because they do not accept Child's transgender identity, the abuse was getting worse, and the Parents were being mean to Child due to Child's transgender identity. A DCS family case manager (FCM) investigated these reports, met with the Parents, Child, and Child's siblings, and spoke by phone to a representative from Child's residential school.
At 16, the child is eligible to seek emancipation. (Ind. Code § 31-34-20-6)
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:25 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Nationwide, child welfare practices have become more cautious about removing a child from home, recognizing the risk inherent in that needs to be balanced against the risk of harm.
This is astonishing. I’ll be checking out the authorities cited by litigants & court.
This is astonishing. I’ll be checking out the authorities cited by litigants & court.
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