Started By
Message

Indiana parents warn nation after child is removed from home for improper pronoun usage

Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:39 pm
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
10622 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:39 pm
quote:

Parents ask Supreme Court to hold Indiana responsible for removing transgender child from their home

A Catholic couple in Indiana is asking the Supreme Court to hold the state accountable for keeping their child out of their home after they declined to use his chosen name and pronouns.

In M.C. and J.C. v. Indiana Department of Child Services, Mary and Jeremy Cox are appealing to the Supreme Court after they were investigated by Indiana officials for refusing to refer to their son using pronouns and a name inconsistent with his biological sex.

Becket is pursuing the case on behalf of the Coxes, arguing state courts allowed Indiana to keep the child from living in his parents' home due to their disagreement with the child's gender identity because of their religious beliefs. Notably, upon completing the investigation, the state determined the allegations of abuse against Mary and Jeremy were unsubstantiated, but still argued that the disagreement over gender identity was distressing to their child.


quote:

In addition, the Coxes believed their son was struggling with underlying mental health conditions, including an eating disorder, so they sought therapeutic care for both.

But, in 2021, Indiana officials began investigating the Coxes after a report found they were not referring to their child by his preferred gender identity, removing the teen from their custody and placing him in a "gender-affirming" home. Despite the unsubstantiated claims of abuse, they claimed the Coxes made the child's eating disorder worse even though it worsened after he was removed and placed in a transition-affirming home.


quote:

When the case was first heard in trial court, Indiana officials argued the child "should be in a home where she is [ac]cepted for who she is" and restricted the Coxes’ visitation time to a few hours once a week, which barred them from speaking to him about their religious views on human sexuality and gender identity. Even though the court determined the Coxes were fit parents, it upheld the removal of their child which was later upheld by the appeals court.

"If this can happen in Indiana, it can happen anywhere," Windhamn said. "Tearing a child away from loving parents because of their religious beliefs, which are shared by millions of Americans, is an outrage to the law, parental rights, and basic human decency. If the Supreme Court doesn’t take this case, how many times will this happen to other families?"


There would be bloodshed.

Fox News
Posted by 4x4tiger
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2006
3125 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:41 pm to
This country is falling into the deepest pits of hell. There's a man and a woman. End of story
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
14156 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:42 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
83306 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:43 pm to
Didn't Indiana somehow recently elected a "moderate" Democrat Governor? That's literally the only reason this happened.

Kinda like how LA (a top 10 conservative state) somehow had some of the strictest COVID lockdowns because of its retarded looking "moderate" Democrat Governor.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 2:44 pm
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2135 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:45 pm to
Hard to overstate how scary this is. We have to be getting close to a tipping point with this stuff.
Posted by terriblegreen
Souf Badden Rewage
Member since Aug 2011
9749 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:47 pm to
quote:

There would be bloodshed.


100%
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
1147 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:49 pm to
This is kidnapping and everyone involved should be prosecuted.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
7277 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:50 pm to
LINK

Here's an Indiana Law review of the case since most of the links are Christian sites. Seems the child was removed due to abuse/eating disorder more than the trans thing, but that would be harder to claim victimhood over.

It remained home for 2 years after declaring itself trans.

Hope this child received some help before it had any kind of gender reassignment surgery
quote:


In 2019, the Coxes’ son informed them that he identified as a girl. But because of their religious belief that God creates human beings with immutable sex — male or female — they could not refer to their child using pronouns and a name inconsistent with what was given at birth.

In 2021, the Indiana Department of Child Services began investigating the Coxes following two reports that they were suspected of abusing or neglecting their child.

“The court emphasized that it was not removing A.C. from the parents’ home due to a disagreement or ‘a child having a certain lifestyle that the parent[s] don’t agree with.’ … ‘There ha[ve] always been issues’ when ‘children do things that the parents don’t agree with,’ the court explained, and those disagreements are ‘not a reason to remove a child from a home,’” according to the state’s brief.

The court ordered A.C. to participate in eating disorder treatment and individual therapy and also ordered the parents and A.C. to continue family therapy. Additionally, the court left in place its order limiting discussion about transgenderism during visitations. The court agreed that it was acceptable to have discussions about A.C. and the parents’ beliefs about gender identity.

“In fact, ‘at some point they have to have that conversation.’ The court emphasized that these conversations should occur within the ‘family therapy that is being ordered’ because of the connection between these conversations and A.C.’s anorexia,” according to the state.

In 2022, Mary and Jeremy appealed the trial court’s orders to the Court of Appeals of Indiana, which affirmed. They then sought rehearing, which the Court of Appeals denied.

Meanwhile, A.C. turned 18 years old and DCS terminated the case.
This post was edited on 2/20/24 at 2:55 pm
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
34850 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

"gender-affirming" home


Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79555 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:01 pm to
Imagine The State making it compulsory that you use language that is false ( lies) or you use your parental rights. Make no mistake about it, this could never have happened if the Democrat Party had not initially pandered to this and then eventually began to promote it. The only way to defeat Progressive insanity is to beat Democrats in elections and then remove them one by one from state bureaucracies. This is going to be a total rebuild.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
45265 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:07 pm to
There are entirely too many people in this country who are just fine with parents getting their kids taken from them because of bullshite like this. Hell, there are too many on this board who are accepting of it. Everyone involved with removing that child from his parents should be lined up in front of a firing squad and shot on national TV.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
23446 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:10 pm to
quote:

When the case was first heard in trial court, Indiana officials argued the child "should be in a home where she is [ac]cepted for who she is"


Ironic considering the entire premise of the trans agenda is not accepting what you were born as.
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
3802 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:11 pm to
'Identity was distressing to their child'
They should distress his arse with a belt.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
10727 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:28 pm to
I admit I thought this was Fake News when I read about it, but...my God it's true. I would not think this is possible in the USA but there it is.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
114236 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:28 pm to
I can't even imagine telling my parents "refer to me as a girl and I am not joking"...
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16276 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:34 pm to
quote:

disagreement with the child's gender identity because of their religious beliefs.


Religious beliefs? How about because once a male ALWAYS a male. The English language doesn’t change just because you wish you had a pussy. Clown fricking world!!!
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
13623 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:38 pm to
This is what happens when the scum of the earth have actual real power.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50581 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:41 pm to
OT Moderates and Progressives approve, especially since the family admits to being Catholic.

The OT Moderates and Progressives would support a Muslim family's objections to this, however. Please do not ask to explain the difference. You are too stupid to get it.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5741 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

The evidence in support of the Dispositional Order shows that on May 11, 2021, DCS received a report alleging that Mother was verbally and emotionally abusing then-sixteen-year-old Child by using rude and demeaning language toward Child regarding Child's transgender identity, and as a result, Child had thoughts of self-harm. Appellants' App. Vol. 2 at 13-14. On May 21, 2021, DCS received a second report alleging that the Parents were verbally and emotionally abusing Child because they do not accept Child's transgender identity, the abuse was getting worse, and the Parents were being mean to Child due to Child's transgender identity. A DCS family case manager (FCM) investigated these reports, met with the Parents, Child, and Child's siblings, and spoke by phone to a representative from Child's residential school.
M.C. v. Ind. Dep't of Child Servs. (In re A.C.)

At 16, the child is eligible to seek emancipation. (Ind. Code § 31-34-20-6)
Posted by marigny
land of dreamy dreams
Member since May 2023
98 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 4:25 pm to
Nationwide, child welfare practices have become more cautious about removing a child from home, recognizing the risk inherent in that needs to be balanced against the risk of harm.

This is astonishing. I’ll be checking out the authorities cited by litigants & court.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 2Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram