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re: Womens BBall delusion
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:59 pm to Alt26
Posted on 1/30/24 at 5:59 pm to Alt26
I am glad we don't have a game on Thursday. I hope KM gave the team a couple of days off.
IMO, how we played versus Carolina tells me we can stay with and even beat any team in the US. What we cannot do (and win) is lose starters to fouls or have a bad night shooting.
IMO, how we played versus Carolina tells me we can stay with and even beat any team in the US. What we cannot do (and win) is lose starters to fouls or have a bad night shooting.
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:09 pm to QB
They can shoot they just are not shooting well as of now you people need to get your panies out of a wod lots of basketball to play ! Things will get better once they find the identity they are looking for Kim knows that be patient kinda the same take y’all took to baseball last year
Posted on 1/30/24 at 10:20 pm to mcspufftiger7
It was said by a bunch that because of the transfers we’d be more talented than last year. What happened?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 9:02 am to Papoo63
It's past time to switch HVL to #2 guard and let F Johnson take over the point...WE've seen enough...geaux tigers
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:23 am to CalTiger53
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Ed Orgeron 2.0
Is Kim tearing her shirt off, shotgunning Red Bulls, and cheating on her cancer-ridden spouse?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:56 am to mcspufftiger7
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I’m not tearing anyone down. I know KM is a great coach. I’m just trying to understand how she could be so devoid of talent after winning a Natty. She literally has one decent bench player in Rosario. That’s it.
I agree. With no substitutions worth mentioning, how can a coach or fan expect the starting five to give 100% effectively throughout the game.
You may not see it outright, but fatigue effects the free throws, the ability of the defense, the lazy passes, etc. If the bench is only good for practice, we need a complete overhaul.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:11 am to Lutcher Lad
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I agree. With no substitutions worth mentioning, how can a coach or fan expect the starting five to give 100% effectively throughout the game.
You may not see it outright, but fatigue effects the free throws, the ability of the defense, the lazy passes, etc. If the bench is only good for practice, we need a complete overhaul.
Most teams have a core rotation of 7-8 players once they get to conference play. That's not to say you won't see players 9, 10, 11 play a few spot minutes here and there during a game out of necessity. But they aren't a part of that core. LSU lost two of that expected core, Poole and Smith, very early in the season. Arguably that was the first two players set to come off the bench. I doubt Mulkey planned to lose them.
Admittedly, I don't watch a ton of WBB. But from what I have seen LSU's biggest flaw is the lack of a true PG and someone who can facilitate the offense and be a stopper on defense. That had that last season. Without that player, it means the other guards have to work harder on both ends of the floor. If you want to point to a coaching flaw, it's probably being too reliant on Van Lith to be the primary ball handler/facilitator. That's not her strongest suit. Yet, she has to out of necessity...which causes every other part of her game to drop off a bit. That, coupled with relying on Freshmen takes time to figure out.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:43 am to mcspufftiger7
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This isn’t a statement about whether KM is a good coach. It’s a statement about the state of the team. There is nothing to figure out. You have no bench and a sub par PG. That is a fact and even a HOF coach can’t overcome that. You don’t need to be an expert to see that. They are already showing signs of wear and tear. That will be multiplied in a tournament setting where you play multiple times in a few days.
You keep repeating this shite without acknowledging the fact that 2 contributors to this team were lost early in the season.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:57 am to mcspufftiger7
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How do you have no PG and no bench coming off a NC with a hall of fame coach?
IF you followed the team, you would be aware that we lost 2 starters: SMITH and POOLE
ETA: The one thing I do know: We have Mulkey, the best of the best. She will have the ship righted in time for tourney play.
Her WIKI page would make Saban blush.
Mulkey accomplishments
This post was edited on 1/31/24 at 12:09 pm
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:40 pm to rutiger
As I said it is not a statement on coaching but on the state of the team. Regardless of the reasons this team will not be able to win in a tournament setting with only 6 players. Their legs will give out. The bad passes, bad defense, poor shooting late in the games are because of fatigue. She will need to use her TO liberally or start playing some bench players and get them real game experience before the tournament or they won't be there long. That is just a fact. There is nothing for KM to figure out other than how to get more players ready to play.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:54 pm to tonydtiger
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What does the current recruiting class look like?
We have a baller coming in next year.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:57 pm to Bill W Tiger
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MOO scored 33 in the 3rd quarter by shooting 11 of 13 FG
3rd Qtr Mooo shot 87%. repeat 87%
Posted on 1/31/24 at 1:59 pm to mcspufftiger7
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literally no bench
Posted on 1/31/24 at 2:10 pm to mcspufftiger7
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Anyone who thinks a team that has no PG. No backup PG.
Do you know. What a comma. Is?
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:41 pm to Wiseguy
She be is 86 and has dementia.”
You don’t sound too good yourself.
You don’t sound too good yourself.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 10:52 pm to maturetiger
time to switch HVL to #2 guard and let F Johnson take over the point...WE've seen enough...geaux tigers“
You think coach is just not picking up on this, huh? KM has a lot of time invested in HVL playing point guard and I don’t see her coming off of that.
You think coach is just not picking up on this, huh? KM has a lot of time invested in HVL playing point guard and I don’t see her coming off of that.
Posted on 1/31/24 at 11:17 pm to NOSTRODAMUS
LSU has a lot of young talent on the bench, they have struggled at times when they have come in (Kent, Velez and ADR) but to be fair most of them didn’t get many minutes In ooc when we were up 40+ in the 4th quarters. To me that’s where I think Kim failed In not getting some enough reps and experience. If you can’t give them the reps then, how can we expect them to contribute now in SEC play where the level of play is much higher? A essentially 6 person rotation is not sustainable
I say, let MK or Flaujae run the point, they will make mistakes like we are doing now but at least do the minimum and make HVL a scorer as an off guard catch and shoot. You’ll maximize things more doing it that way. Right now we have taken HVLs scoring ability out the window in addition to sketchy PG play and her defense
I say, let MK or Flaujae run the point, they will make mistakes like we are doing now but at least do the minimum and make HVL a scorer as an off guard catch and shoot. You’ll maximize things more doing it that way. Right now we have taken HVLs scoring ability out the window in addition to sketchy PG play and her defense
Posted on 2/1/24 at 2:02 am to Alt26
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Most teams have a core rotation of 7-8 players once they get to conference play. That's not to say you won't see players 9, 10, 11 play a few spot minutes here and there during a game out of necessity. But they aren't a part of that core. LSU lost two of that expected core, Poole and Smith, very early in the season. Arguably that was the first two players set to come off the bench. I doubt Mulkey planned to lose them.
Admittedly, I don't watch a ton of WBB. But from what I have seen LSU's biggest flaw is the lack of a true PG and someone who can facilitate the offense and be a stopper on defense. That had that last season. Without that player, it means the other guards have to work harder on both ends of the floor. If you want to point to a coaching flaw, it's probably being too reliant on Van Lith to be the primary ball handler/facilitator. That's not her strongest suit. Yet, she has to out of necessity...which causes every other part of her game to drop off a bit. That, coupled with relying on Freshmen takes time to figure out.
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Posted on 2/1/24 at 7:51 am to mcspufftiger7
I will add you to the delusional group. Van Lith is the favorite whipping girl of the Rant. She is no Alexa Morris but who is. We were spoiled with just how good Morris was last year. HVL is not the reason we lost either of the last 2 games. She struggled early in the season, but has been adequate in our league games. Depth, turnovers, and clutch plays at the end of both games are what I saw as the problem.
The sky is not falling. We did not play terrible and could have won both games. The other team made clutch plays at the end of both games and we didn't.
The SC game was affected by Angel fouling out, Williams having a terrible shooting night and and SC making 2 clutch 3s at the end of the game. Van Lith was not the defender on either 3. Turnovers hurt us. Van Lith had 3 turnovers for the game which is not bad for a point guard.
The Miss St game was affected by another below average game by Williams, and Morrow to a degree (Morrow missed a layup at the end of the game when we were down by 3). We had 21 turnovers in the game. Van Lith only had 3. Rebounding was about even; we should have rebounded better. Miss St made clutch baskets at the end of the game and we didn't. Miss St was hungry. We were flat after the big SC game.
Both losses were team losses and 1 player should not be the scapegoat. Morrow and Williams are great players and I am not down on either. Van Lith is not as good as either of them, but she is not the reason we lost.
The sky is not falling. We did not play terrible and could have won both games. The other team made clutch plays at the end of both games and we didn't.
The SC game was affected by Angel fouling out, Williams having a terrible shooting night and and SC making 2 clutch 3s at the end of the game. Van Lith was not the defender on either 3. Turnovers hurt us. Van Lith had 3 turnovers for the game which is not bad for a point guard.
The Miss St game was affected by another below average game by Williams, and Morrow to a degree (Morrow missed a layup at the end of the game when we were down by 3). We had 21 turnovers in the game. Van Lith only had 3. Rebounding was about even; we should have rebounded better. Miss St made clutch baskets at the end of the game and we didn't. Miss St was hungry. We were flat after the big SC game.
Both losses were team losses and 1 player should not be the scapegoat. Morrow and Williams are great players and I am not down on either. Van Lith is not as good as either of them, but she is not the reason we lost.
Posted on 2/1/24 at 8:09 am to KWL85
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She struggled early in the season, but has been adequate in our league games.
This…..our league losses are much more attributable to Morrow and Williams disappearing basically in league play and not running the offense through Reese at pivotal points in the game and her fouling out vs SC didn’t help.
Reese isn’t perfect by any means but she’s the closest thing to a sure basket in the paint that LSU has.
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