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re: 2023 LSU WBB won Natty but lost nearly $8M

Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2656 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:00 pm to
I worked for the Legislative Auditor's Office. This is everything or the AD committed fraud and will go to jail. We usually do make money, a surplus. The only other money losing year I can remember was 2020, the covid year, when we didn't sell tickets. So the surplus from other years enables them to cover the deficit. It is only when you have losing years for three or four years that you are in big trouble. But it is amazing that we had a losing year when the football team brought in more revenue than ever.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54810 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:02 pm to
I didn't say last year. I said starting this year.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
71902 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:03 pm to
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I didn't say last year. I said starting this year.



And I'm saying I'll bet you $7.8m that they continue to operate in the red.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54810 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:06 pm to
Well shite if this was over on the OT i would take that bet but we ain't.

How in the fuq can a sport which sells out or has great attendance almost every game lose that much money? Especially a national champion.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8263 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:08 pm to
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You're wild if you think LSU is operating under a net loss and still giving out these contracts.

LSU has as much “frick you money” as boosters are willing to give them. Thats how they pay for these contracts. But Handsome Pete should be here any minute to say that boosters don’t pay salaries and buyouts, even though it’s widely known that they do.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9151 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:11 pm to
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No way the women's basketball team is losing money starting this year. Guarantee Kim Mulkey will be operating in the black as long as she is here.

Not true. Uconn wbb program loses money. Tenn lost money when they were winning championships under Pat Summitt. The reason why is the lack of tv revenue. Wbb, baseball, softball and gym don't have its own tv deal like football and mbb.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
4463 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:12 pm to
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Just wait until Bob Mann finds out the athletic department has no money to contribute back to the academic side of the university. What more can we do to make him unhappy?


He quit because Jeff Landry was elected governor. Seriously. LINK
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36364 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:12 pm to
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I worked for the Legislative Auditor's Office. This is everything or the AD committed fraud and will go to jail. We usually do make money, a surplus. The only other money losing year I can remember was 2020, the covid year, when we didn't sell tickets. So the surplus from other years enables them to cover the deficit. It is only when you have losing years for three or four years that you are in big trouble. But it is amazing that we had a losing year when the football team brought in more revenue than ever.


The Athletic Department would have finished in the black, but the Athletic Dept. transferred $5,240,241.00 to the institution.
That transfer is noted on the bottom line of the audit.

One thing people need to understand, thd Athletic Dept. is not in business to turn a profit. Like all government entities they are going to spend all that they take in if they can. Their goal is to do that, and win championships.
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
25953 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:12 pm to
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Yeah but the exposure the women's hoops team gave the university has no price tag.


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Just the Reese/Clark drama alone got enough clicks for LSU to recoup that $8m.




These are just sayings with no meaning.

There's always a price tag.
what the hell does a click have to do with LSU recouping money?


And i'm not complaining about losing money on WBB. That doens't bother me at all. I want us to be the best in every sport. We make more than enough money from football to compete in every other sport.
Posted by LSBoosie
Member since Jun 2020
8263 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:18 pm to
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These are just sayings with no meaning.

People will sit here and say there’s is no way to quantify the money that Mulkey and the WBB brings in due to the exposure while also guaranteeing that it’s more than $8 million…
Posted by Jim Hopper
Ocean Springs Mississippi
Member since Sep 2019
2236 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:18 pm to
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Most men's sports lose $$$ as well. At LSU, only fball and MBB made money in 2023.
Baseball turns a small profit every year. One of the few colleges that does for the sport.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 1:19 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20524 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:22 pm to
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quote:

WBB apparently puts out a pretty entertaining product, and is respected.

If this was the case they wouldn’t be losing money at the collegiate and professional levels.
How do you figure?

There are many sports that are not profitable, due to lack of widespread public support. Are you saying none of them are entertaining, due to the financial nature?
Are you saying that no team/organization within those sports can be respected, because they're not making football money?

I'm not a fan, but I've known people who went out to see WBB, during the Gunter, Pokey and now Mulkey years. Those people had a good time at the arenas and were happy about their day (thus, entertained), and those teams won and were ranked (thus, respected).
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70850 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:24 pm to
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Baseball turns a small profit every year.


Except last year.

The information is literally in this thread, you don't have to keep repeating incorrect things.
Posted by rutiger
purgatory
Member since Jun 2007
21149 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:28 pm to
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Baseball turns a small profit every year. Except last year. The information is literally in this thread, you don't have to keep repeating incorrect things.


Amen. Shits infuriating.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17241 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:31 pm to
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These are just sayings with no meaning.

There's always a price tag.
what the hell does a click have to do with LSU recouping money?


It's ok to be wrong...

LSU was talked about for weeks.

-Social media mention traffic directed to LSU.
-Ad revenue+
-Increased NIL spending on the WBB team to sustain

Not to mention the screen time during the championship run (Final Four ADs cost millions).

You can tangibly calculate the ROI LSU has received from winning the title, and the social media frenzy that followed.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36364 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:33 pm to
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You can tangibly calculate the ROI LSU has received from winning the title, and the social media frenzy that followed.


Good, so how much was all that worth?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7867 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:37 pm to
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Because they don't report everything.

You're wild if you think LSU is operating under a net loss and still giving out these contracts.




as a state run institution, there is very little they can "not report"

only a handful of athletic departments in the entire country actually turn a profit.
Posted by LSUVT
Member since Oct 2023
390 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:41 pm to
With all the complaining and whining about LSU's finances, it seems the only solution to prevent losses in the AD is for LSU to get rid of all sports other than FB and MBB (since they all lose $$). Same goes for all colleges around the country too. No sports other than FB and MBB. Complainers are a trip. There's more than one way to skin a cat.
This post was edited on 1/29/24 at 2:14 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7867 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:42 pm to
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If this was the case they wouldn’t be losing money at the collegiate and professional levels.


quote:

There are many sports that are not profitable, due to lack of widespread public support. Are you saying none of them are entertaining, due to the financial nature?


why do they NOT have more widespread public support?
do people sit at home and say "man, this is some entertaining shite, but I still ain't watching"?

Posted by Tom Bronco
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2011
2656 posts
Posted on 1/29/24 at 1:49 pm to
And I think I should be recognized as a superior human being and not have to pay my bills either.
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