The Grove Collective

They still got no depth

Enjoy the downvotes. TD doesn’t understand this is college ball now and we aren’t keeping up.

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state. Is this subscription based collective sustainable long term?

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I have contended for a long time that I don’t believe that it is. There is a limit to how much you can squeeze out of Joe Everyman and that limit is diminished every year you don't win something

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It’s demoralizing day after day watching Ole Miss rack up on all these portal players.

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Are you a grown man?

That’s the most pathetic thing I’ve ever read.

LSU has a different portal philosophy than Ole Miss.

this is a one year thing for them. They are putting all of their money into a run next year. They will not be doing this year after year.

The NCAA model for this shite is retarded. First off the school makes over $100 million off football but can’t use any of that on its players. Then these kids are getting bags and then transferring the next year. Unless they are signing a 3 year contract with the team and getting paid for loyalty I don’t think anybody should donate shite personally, but y’all do y'all thing. You can’t have it where players get paid but have nothing locking them in to the school. There needs to be buyout clauses an everything just like any other contract. You wanna transfer then whoever you going to owed LSU’s collective 2x what they paid you so they can use it on someone else. You can’t have this wide open shite they got going on right now. To each their own I guess

Speaking of Ole Miss, few weeks back there was mention of Austin Thomas possibly coming back. Any more on that? Maybe he could help improve our NIL organization and creativity.

Folks are mixing up NIL strategy and ability.

LSU has the #3 recruiting class in the country for 2024 per on3 and currently has the #1 class in the country for 2025. Clearly, they are doing something to attract talent to Baton Rouge.

BK said he wants to build his program through high school prospects. Ole Miss wants to go all in when the stars align with a 4th year starting qb. We'll see what wins out.

I suppose a lot will depend on how Ole Miss performs this year. If they go 9-3 or 8-4 and miss the playoff, a lot of that money will dry up, especially given the relatively manageable schedule they have. With the influx of the portal players and their schedule, their supporters are expecting a season for the ages.

If they flop, or even if they succeed, they will just have to turn right around and pony up the very next year and hope, with fingers crossed, that they hit on every single transfer, which is unlikely.

If they make the Playoff, Kiffin will bolt if he gets an offer to go somewhere else where he actually has an advantage in recruiting high school players.

Listen, Lane himself has lamented buying transfer players and trying to build a team with a bunch of mercenaries, but he's going to use what's at his disposal and hope it hits big one year, and then he's gone to a better program. It worked for DeBoer at Washington, and he was gone to a better situation in a week. Lane is trying to follow that path.

There's not enough history to know if the NIL/transfer portal twins can win big and be sustained, but the movement of coaches who have profited from it suggests that they don't subscribe to the theory that it can be maintained.

Michigan State was the first to turn around a program through the portal when they brought in 15 transfers, had a great season, and got their coach a massive contract. The next season, they crashed and burned.

Will Kiffin and Ole Miss be different? Will Lane provide college football with an entirely different way to build and sustain championship programs? Unlikely, but we'll see.

It’s still Ole Miss…Ole Piss…the Land Sharks and Lane Kiffin will find a way to blow it.